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i was wondering if some of the linux users on this forum could clear a few things up for me.

1. Why is it you use linux?

2. how do you boot to it? do you use refit? can you do it as a triple boot safely?

3. what is the most stable "distro" i should download?

thanks a lot in advance.

P.S i did search this but i couldn't see any threads, and google isn't much help. it would be interesting to get some perspective.

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The only reason I use Linux is just out of pure curiosity, I have tried a few but like Ubuntu the most, use it through Parallels.

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ah cool, i am the same as you, i find it really intriguing and want to see "what all the fuss is about", so to speak. what is the user experience like? is there a lot of command line use for Ubuntu?

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There isn't much at all when it comes to command line usage, you can use it a lot in that way if you want to but the desktop etc is very user friendly. There is an "App Store" like place as well to download apps and games which is very helpful.
I have used the command line previously to download drivers when I had it on my Advent laptop, it can be quite confusing in this manner but with a huge fan base there is no shortage in forums and people to ask. I managed to find all my answers for command line questions after a few google searches.
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thanks for the extra info. it tells me i need to "spread the rep" a bit unfortunately.

the GUI seems like a hybrid Mac/PC, which is quite interesting. i think also getting a bit more hands on with the computer, using command line and editing config files etc would be useful to add to my knowledge (curiosity being my main reason of interest!)

i guess i will now have to look into the possibility of a triple boot: ive never been a fan of parallels/vmware.

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I am not a massive fan of parallels but with Win7 on my bootcamp I didn't want to go down the triple boot road incase I messed it up as I have not got Time Machine setup at the moment... I know stupid lol.
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Also keep in mind the screenshots posted show Gnome. Linux also has KDE and many other desktop managers. There is no one look and feel for Linux. Customization is king in the Linux world. If you don't happen to have Parallels then try VirtualBox. It's free and works just as good.
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I am not a massive fan of parallels but with Win7 on my bootcamp I didn't want to go down the triple boot road incase I messed it up as I have not got Time Machine setup at the moment... I know stupid lol.
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haha i am unfortunately a bit of a back up freak, i have a superduper'ed drive at home for the macbook, and a time machine backup for 2 computers and 3 external hard drives. (all off site, currently )

im checking out Virtual box now, thanks for the info! btw, what does KDE stand for? so you think ubuntu is the way to go?

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KDE stands for K Desktop Environment. I actually prefer Kubuntu to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is Gnome, Kubuntu is KDE. Both are technically the same. The only real difference is the desktop manager and some of the applications.
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KDE is a Windowing Manager and Graphical User Interface for the UNIX operating system, (another distro) not just Linux (but was made on Linux machines). KDE has been with us since approximately 1997 and is the one of two most popular desktops for Linux. You can freely download and distribute KDE, and these days, there is no restriction on copying it.
Users coming from either a Windows or a Mac OS background will feel quite at home with KDE as it has a very similar look and feel to both. For example, the Windows style 'Start' menu is alternated by the 'K' menu. Like MacOS X, it allows for skinning, transparencies and other eye candies, and can incorporate many 'Themes'.

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great, i've just downloaded Ubuntu from the official site, 64 bit. ill give it a shot on virtual box. if i like it enough ill think about giving it a proper install.

interesting stuff! thanks alot for your help guys.
ill let you know how ive got on when i get round to installing it

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I use Linux mostly for curiosity as well. My Macbook pro is also currently a triple boot (200 GBs for Win7/Mac OS X, and 100GBs for Ubuntu 10.10) using rEFIt. I also used Linux Mint for a while on an old laptop, but when i tried to make a quad-boot on my Mac, GRUB was somehow deleted, and everything was lost (thankfully for me, the mac was brand new, and i hadn't saved anything yet). I would say the Pros are the fact that its incredibly awesome, fast, customizable, has an app store, is open-source, and has a lot of functionality. The main (and only) con for me is that there isn't much support, seeing as not many people use it. For example, i couldn't load some printer drivers onto it because there was no linux support. Also, the Function keys (such as brightness, sound, keyboard light, etc) don't work either. I would definitely give it a try.
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great, i've just downloaded Ubuntu from the official site, 64 bit. ill give it a shot on virtual box. if i like it enough ill think about giving it a proper install.

interesting stuff! thanks alot for your help guys.
ill let you know how ive got on when i get round to installing it
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I included a screenshot of the latest Kubuntu running in vmware for comparison. If you are starting out with Linux it might be easier to stick with the 32-bit version, especially if you are running in a virtual environment. There's no reason to run 64-bit in a VM.

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okay, ill redownload with 32 bit. thanks for the help ukchucktown. ill burn 64 bit for if i want to install it with reFit.

@Armageddon: have you had any trouble with refit prior to trying a quad boot?

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