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Has anyone used MiniDisc on their Mac?


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The SONY MZ-RH1 looks like a good purchase especially as my wife is involved in a local community radio. It would come in handy for vox-pop interviews as well as a personal music player! It's basially a mobile sound studio as far as I can see :-)

Has anyone got one? Is it any good?

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I don't know about that exact model but our radio production studio at college used Mini-Discs for that exact reason (vox-pops, interviews, on-location news reports etc).

They weren't used with Macs because the DAWs in the radio room where all Windows machines. Judging from the set up we had though, I don't see any reason why you couldn't hook it up to a Mac: 3.5" minijack cable from the headphone port (or a TOSlink cable if it supports digital/optical out) to the line-in port of the Mac. Boot up your choice of sound recording/editing software, chose the input, hit record, hit play on the mini-disc and boom.

Our setup was much more complicated with multiple input/output sound cards hooked up to Hi-Fi component mini-disc players through an amp, in turn connected to some beefy speakers; all with optical/digital connections, but the process is essentially the same.

Also I wouldn't really use a Mini-Disc for music playback; not that you can't, I'd just figure it's more hassle than it's worth. It found it's place great for recording stuff; loss-less digital format with an "analogue" way of getting the audio from the disc to the computer bypassing concerns about audio formats and compression that come with DAPs and with much higher quality than cassettes. But for music playback? It never really took off because it was far too complicated to get your music on there; it really is like going back to creating mixtapes. My advice it to get the Mini-Disc and something like an iPod shuffle or nano. Much more enjoyable experience, much quicker, and much easier.

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Cool! I'm informed however that MiniDisc on the Mac was not supported directly until 2006 on the release of the new Hi-MD players including the SONY MZ-RH1.

I've also heard the functionality of the Mac software is limited compared to the PC version. i.e. old SP and LP recorded tracks cannot be uploaded to a Mac only Hi-MD tracks!

This doesn't effect it's suitability for radio work however. It's just annoying from a iTunes jukebox perspective, as I have a catalogue of tunes on old minidiscs, and it would be great if I could upload them to my Mac!

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R U all iPod users or something?

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I use to use a minidics player,not is collecting dust in my closet. Sony's jukebox software was horrible. Mine was a N1 so it didn't have any Hi-MD capabilities. I know last time i read about the minidisc world there were talks about usb uploading of mic recorded content. Before usb was only moving atrac content to minidisc. Then sony finally listened and started using mp3's instead of having to convert all your mp3's to atrac. Shortly after i bought my ipod (about 2 years ago) they starting allowing usb uploads from md to pc/mac. Before it was only one way, to md.
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Any update on mac software for the Sony RZ-MH1 minidisc? Really fancy it, but want to upload LP4 recordings to my Mac aswell as HD recordings (ala the PC software).

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Any update on mac software for the Sony RZ-MH1 minidisc? Really fancy it, but want to upload LP4 recordings to my Mac aswell as HD recordings (ala the PC software).
Do formats get much more dead than minidisc is at this point?
My friend had one and never used it... You couldn't even transfer the recordings back over usb.
why not use an iPod with a voice recording adapter?
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My friend had one and never used it... You couldn't even transfer the recordings back over usb.
Midisc systems where made with that intention in mind, you can record but not digitally transfer the music out, it was their way to deal with DRM.
I haven't used my minidisc in a while, the main problem i had was the ATRAC system, it is great (better than MP3 IMHO) but not as compatible. I'm pretty sure there should be some other options around that work with MP3, Sony as far as i know is not too kind with OSX.
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Yeah, more's the pity as it was a great format otherwise:
I had one of the original sharp players and they were miles better than discman players for music on the go...

But buying one today is like buying a HD-DVD player: You're buying into a dead format. Finding content and blank discs will just get harder and harder and your wife will have to capture her recordings back to the computer in real time if she ever wants to do any editing...
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Sony are selling the new Hi-MD minidiscs in enough numbers to continue support. They are selling them with Digital editing and field recording in mind, an area where the minidisc still retains a significant advantage over the iPod.

I recently received an email back from Sony in regards to my grievance over PCs being better supported than the Mac. This was the response I recieved and is a bit diappointing really :-(

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Dear BigD

I am sorry to learn that the software recommended in my previous communication does not meet your requirements.

Although I understand that this is frustrating for you, we have sold many MZ-RH1 units, and have had positive feedback from our customers regarding this product. Sony United Kingdom Limited does attempt to meet, and often exceed, our customers' expectations.



Having said this, it is with regret that on some occasions a product may not suit each individual's specific requirements. While we are unable to assist directly on this occasion, I have logged your case with us as a complaint and as such, this will automatically get fed back to the products designers. Whilst they will not look to contact you directly as a result of this, you can be sure that at least your view on this will be recognised.



Regrettably I do not have any information relating to the possible release of future software updates for this product.

I apologise for any disappointment that this may cause.



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Dear Sony

I already have this transfer software and it states:

"You can import audio data recorded in Linear PCM, Hi-SP or Hi-LP mode on the Macintosh-compatible Hi-MD Walkman to a Macintosh computer after converting to WAV format audio data.(1)"

So, although transfer is possible it's only if it is recorded in PCM, Hi-SP or Hi-LP formats, NOT standard SP, LP2 and LP4 formats! This feature is available for the PC and I was wondering why it still hasn't been included in the Mac software nearly a year and a half after release of the MZ-RH1?

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Is anyone else bothered that although Sony are now supporting the Mac with MiniDisc Transfer Software, they have released a sub-standard set of specifications compared to the PC. How much effort would it take to upgrade the specs of the software to be in line with the PC version?

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Bought one this month!!!! My wifes very happy with it and used it to record some interviews with some Christian Rock bands playing in the local Cathedral tonight- v cool ;-) A doddle to upload to Mac as WAV files (5 minutes for 700mb of wav sound files) and then edit in Audacity. Cool bit of kit. Sad Sony won't upgrade the software in line with the PC software features but hey still pleased :-) Would recommend!!!

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4 and 1/2 years on and I've got the MZ-RH1 uploading my LP2 and LP4 minidiscs to my Mac! All is not lost and I've basically future proofed my music collection by giving me the option to copy my old Minidisc onto another MP3 player if I want to.

How did I do it you ask? VM Fusion 5 and an old copy of Windows XP. Sometimes to get features companies only build into the Windows version of their CE software you have to run Windows on your Mac.

The MZ-RH1 Minidisc is still going strong for field recordings and my wife helped collect vox-pops for a Christmas feature using it. The final feature was eventually broadcast on a string of local radios round the UK on Christmas Eve! I was so impressed with her machine that I got one myself for my birthday last year (probably my last chance to buy a MiniDisc player :-(). It is really great build quality and will outlast my mum's iPod Nano for sure.

I get the feeling iPods are more fashion symbols than great products. The Nano doesn't even have AM on the radio to listen to BBC Radio 5live (sport radio) even though my old MZ-G755 Minidisc had both AM & FM back in 2002!

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