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x86 Mac - Thoughts/ Legality?


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First off, I remember my cousin successfully getting it to work on a Celeron PC a few months ago but remember something about it being illegal. Is this true?
I guess that's the first thing to ask before I get started. (I researched the forums here and came up empty handed and Google as well without much help.)
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It's against the EULA and therefore completely illegal.

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I know it is against Apple's EULA:

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2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code and other Apple firmware that is embedded or otherwise contained in Apple-labeled hardware) in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original. Apple Boot ROM code and firmware is provided only for use on Apple-labeled hardware and you may not copy, modify or redistribute the Apple Boot ROM code or firmware, or any portions thereof.



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Boo. What does EULA mean? Just curious...


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End User (Software) License Agreement.
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End User... D'oh!

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I am just trying to find a way to run OSX on a desktop tower Mac without spending $2200 on a Mac Pro.
$600 is my limit and a G4 is way too weak for the price. I could totally build a screaming C2D 2.16GHz PC for that price though but don't want to use XP.
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I am just trying to find a way to run OSX on a desktop tower Mac without spending $2200 on a Mac Pro.
$600 is my limit and a G4 is way too weak for the price. I could totally build a screaming C2D 2.16GHz PC for that price though but don't want to use XP.
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Then you're limited to Vista, or a free, open source OS (there are plenty).
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Then you're limited to Vista, or a free, open source OS (there are plenty).
Say NO to Windows!
I use things like Photoshop and other apps which aren't supported by Linux so OSX is the best option for me.
Thanks though.
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But, bear in mind things like GIMP will/should be available for Linux. GIMP is a pretty good app. And your profile says a Core Duo iMac - I'd be surprised if you're doing anything that will push that far beyond it's limits.

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I know exactly what you're going through, because I'm in the same boat. I want a tower-based (i.e. expandable) replacement for my desktop PC. I really don't want an iMac, but I don't want to spend a minimum of $2000 for a Mac Pro.

Let's hope that Apple eventually addresses this need, because I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. A perfect replacement for the Mac mini would be a mid-level PC tower that uses fairly standardized components (hence, lower costs to assemble and procure parts) and is capable of running OS X. It would be the perfect way to compete with Dell & HP on the desktop front, while leaving the iMac to those who care more for the styling than they do about the functionality, and the Mac Pro to the upper echelon (think "workstation" performance needs).

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But, bear in mind things like GIMP will/should be available for Linux. GIMP is a pretty good app. And your profile says a Core Duo iMac - I'd be surprised if you're doing anything that will push that far beyond it's limits.
The DL portion of the DVD burner is quite slow. It takes 30-40mins to burn a DVD. It only burns DL at 2.4x or something. The PC I sold for a Mac had a 8x DL burner. Otherwise, I miss the lack of expandability of the iMac.

In a few years, the iMac might not do what I want it to do anymore. Right now the solution is to sell this and buy a new one. I don't want to replace a whole computer if a few small issues with it.

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I know exactly what you're going through, because I'm in the same boat. I want a tower-based (i.e. expandable) replacement for my desktop PC. I really don't want an iMac, but I don't want to spend a minimum of $2000 for a Mac Pro.

Let's hope that Apple eventually addresses this need, because I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. A perfect replacement for the Mac mini would be a mid-level PC tower that uses fairly standardized components (hence, lower costs to assemble and procure parts) and is capable of running OS X. It would be the perfect way to compete with Dell & HP on the desktop front, while leaving the iMac to those who care more for the styling than they do about the functionality, and the Mac Pro to the upper echelon (think "workstation" performance needs).
That's what I am hoping. I saw some fake blog for a Mac Pro Mini. I would like something I could expand on. If I want a new vid card, I can drop one in. If a 250GB HD is too small, I can drop one in easily. I'd like to drop in a nice audio card to but I can't on my iMac.


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Even if grey box Macs this discussion wasn't against forum rules, I can't imagine you'd have much joy running OS X on unsupported hardware.

Every time there's a system update something breaks, certain features aren't supported and you can bet that 10.5. will up the protection a bit as well!

Anyway, please check the rules - Apple isn't keen on these types of discussions - thread closed!

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