New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus • Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts • Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
Other Hardware and Peripherals Other Apple systems and peripherals discussion.

Disappearing Disk Space


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
snake021
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

We are having a hell of a problem with drive space "disappearing"!
Basically the server does not release space once things have been deleted. At first we found a lot of things in the network trash folder; however that was only a small percentage of the missing space. All in all we are missing about 15GB. We are only using 2 shared volumes at the moment (2 x 34GB). I have installed cocktail as well, to clean up any caches etc that might be lurking around.
Our current setup is 1x160gb ADM partitioned into 5 volumes. We have about 10 logins for ppl to access the server. It is running 10.2.8 build number 6R73.
There is amix of OS9 and OS10 users logging in.

Any way, has anyone ever heard of something like this happening? Any advice?

Thanks
Snake
QUOTE Thanks
BruceBodger
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Have you resolved your problem? Having the same problem here running 10.3.2.

Thanks,


Quote:
Originally Posted by snake021
We are having a hell of a problem with drive space "disappearing"!
Basically the server does not release space once things have been deleted. At first we found a lot of things in the network trash folder; however that was only a small percentage of the missing space. All in all we are missing about 15GB. We are only using 2 shared volumes at the moment (2 x 34GB). I have installed cocktail as well, to clean up any caches etc that might be lurking around.
Our current setup is 1x160gb ADM partitioned into 5 volumes. We have about 10 logins for ppl to access the server. It is running 10.2.8 build number 6R73.
There is amix of OS9 and OS10 users logging in.

Any way, has anyone ever heard of something like this happening? Any advice?

Thanks
Snake
QUOTE Thanks
tomsonline
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

I am having the same problem on my Powerbook running 10.3.6. The system tells me that I've got only about 6 GB left on my 80GB (74 actual) drive and yet when I go to the finder and do an APPLE-i on the hard disk it only totals 39GB!! That's a lot of missing space (about 30GB in fact).

Where has it all gone and what should I do to fix it.

As a point of reference. The machine is only 3 months old, I've installed and run Diskwarrior (which did nothing) and am now considering reformatting my hard-drive on Thanksgiving.

Can somebody help!
QUOTE Thanks
Macman

 
Macman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 30, 2004
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,374
Macman has a spectacular aura about
Mac Specs: PowerMac G4 Cube 450mhz 832mb

Macman is offline
@ snake:
have you tried repairing permissions? thats ounds really weird, are you by chance using a swap partitioning system? if so, your system may not be dumping swap files, besides that, Im not sure what could be cauing this,
although sometimes, the finder wont give you correct avail. space, try using system profiler in the utilities folder to see the true space, or try copying a file larger than the available space onto it and see what it does.
@tom:
the only time you should run disk warrior and rebuild your directory is after a system crash after restarting and discovering files missing or preferences reset or your dock empty for example. dont reformat the drive, just use system profiler, most likely finder just isnt updating the space, in which case Id say repair permissions.
QUOTE Thanks
tomsonline
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Thanks for that - I have tried repairing permissions - as for the swap filesystem - I don't think that I am - how do I check. Finally, do you think that Virtual PC could be causing this?
QUOTE Thanks
Macman

 
Macman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 30, 2004
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,374
Macman has a spectacular aura about
Mac Specs: PowerMac G4 Cube 450mhz 832mb

Macman is offline
when you first set up your mac with partitions, there would have been an option to use swapfile partitioning, if you didnt select that option, its not swap. Im not sure if VPC could be causing this, but maybe. Im not real experienced with VPC, tried it, didnt like it, its gone, but it could be something in the options for vpc, maybe if its using a lot of virtual memory to compensate for ram if you set it up that way, then it'd write files to the hd taking up space to use as ram, but these files are usually temp files, so Im not too sure.
QUOTE Thanks
tomsonline
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Yes I agree - looks strange - when I looked VPC was setup to use 15GB for it's hard drive. It's not actually using this and until it was running this was not actually mounted. Anyway, like you I don't like it and it's now gone. Unfortunately my space isn't back. It seems that VPC was holding some space without actually partitioning it. I've come to the conclusion that rebuild is in order. It's never fun but it's always rewarding to know that you've got a brand new install!

I appreciate all your thoughts and help. Happy ThankGiving.

Tom
QUOTE Thanks
flonejek
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

If you're using any filesharing apps (e.g. mlmac, azureus, poisoned) most of them dont use sparse files and can set the filesizes wrongly, so you end up losing space to nearly empty files, though I'm not sure why finder would show only 39Gigs being used..?
QUOTE Thanks
tomsonline
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

OK I've done a re-install and have my space back. God knows what it was. I'm not using any filesharing apps. Backup almost got everything right first time. Not bad really.

Thanks for your help today.

Take care.

Tom
QUOTE Thanks
SuperNova
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Hi,
I also have this problem, however on a much smaller scale. I'm running 10.3.7 and until I buy a bigger HD, I only have about a G left. It seems that whenever I empty my Trash, my available space decreases...
I've heard that it might be a Virtual memory related problem, but how do you manage VM? Can I turn it off completely?
Thanks
QUOTE Thanks
Macman

 
Macman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 30, 2004
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,374
Macman has a spectacular aura about
Mac Specs: PowerMac G4 Cube 450mhz 832mb

Macman is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperNova
Hi,
I also have this problem, however on a much smaller scale. I'm running 10.3.7 and until I buy a bigger HD, I only have about a G left. It seems that whenever I empty my Trash, my available space decreases...
I've heard that it might be a Virtual memory related problem, but how do you manage VM? Can I turn it off completely?
Thanks
what OS are you running? os x automatically manages all memory, so unless youre still running classic, its automatic.also, try secure deleting files, as files deleted are never all the way gone.
QUOTE Thanks
sylvestermott
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

I use poisoned, and I think I may be having this problem. Does anyone know how to fix it? what happens is whenever I secure empty some files the free space goes down instead of up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by flonejek
If you're using any filesharing apps (e.g. mlmac, azureus, poisoned) most of them dont use sparse files and can set the filesizes wrongly, so you end up losing space to nearly empty files, though I'm not sure why finder would show only 39Gigs being used..?
QUOTE Thanks
bassplayrr

 
bassplayrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 14, 2005
Location: San Fransisco Bay Area, CA, USA
Posts: 500
bassplayrr will become famous soon enough
Mac Specs: 20" G5 iMac; 14.1" G4 iBook; 60Gig iPod Video

bassplayrr is offline
I don't know if this has already been brought up, but I was having this same problem when i had File Vault running. Sometimes when I would shut down my computer File Vault would recover the unused space, other times not. Once I disabled File Vault I have never had the problem again. It's probably not, but that may be part of your problem if you are running File Vault as well.

-Chris
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« internet connection sharing with Tungsten T | G4, and dual monitors? »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
How much disk space does Panther use? gusthecat OS X - Operating System 6 01-07-2004 11:22 PM
Major HD Error - Disk Warrior 3 No Good? OctoMole Other Hardware and Peripherals 8 10-13-2003 10:35 AM
Need help saving my old 8500 Mac -no startup disk subfuggy Other Hardware and Peripherals 0 10-09-2003 09:51 AM
Upgrade internal disk rman Apple Notebooks 2 03-16-2003 03:46 PM
Finding disk usage by file type gatorparrots OS X - Development and Darwin 1 12-23-2002 06:34 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:27 AM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?