OS 10.5 - Minimize button keeps disappearing!

fleurya · fleurya #1 (**permalink**)

02-12-2008, 10:17 AM

This just started happening a couple days ago and is still going on even after the update. I'll have program open for a while and then for no reason the yellow button to minimize down to the Dock turns grey and unusable. The only way I can get it back is to restart the app.

Any ideas/suggestions?

NPuter · NPuter #2 (**permalink**)

02-12-2008, 05:58 PM

can you post a screen shot?

fleurya · fleurya #3 (**permalink**)

02-16-2008, 03:59 PM

The middle button at the top left should be yellow and I should be able to click on it to minimize to the Dock, but for some reason it'll just go grey and I can't use it. It happens with all programs.

MacHeadCase · MacHeadCase #4 (**permalink**)

02-16-2008, 05:06 PM

Is this an intermittent problem? If so, did you play a game or movie in full-screen mode right before the button disappears?

NPuter · NPuter #5 (**permalink**)

02-17-2008, 10:34 AM

that is really weird...
I suppose you have already tried repairing your permissions

MacHeadCase · MacHeadCase #6 (**permalink**)

02-17-2008, 11:31 AM

I have the same problem playing certain games in full-screen mode. Once I quit the game, the minimize button disappears in the apps I had open as well as in Finder and I have to quit all the apps and Finder and relaunch them to get back the minimize button.

It seems it's a bug in Tiger and Leopard combined with some kind of code that is present in some games. As for fleurya's problem, I dunno if this is brought on by game playing or not. He hasn't replied to my question yet. We'll know more later.

fleurya · fleurya #7 (**permalink**)

02-17-2008, 01:08 PM

You were right, MHC!! Only, instead of a game, it's when I run Windows full screen using VMware Fusion. I run full screen Windows in one space and my Mac apps in another and toggle in between. I found that whenever I toggle back to the space with my Mac apps from the Windows space, the minimize buttons are inactive.

If it's a bug, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It feels better knowing what it is, though.

Brown Study · Brown Study #8 (**permalink**)

02-17-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleurya

If it's a bug, I guess I'll just have to live with it.

Maybe not, if the bug hasn't affected double-clicking the title bar, which is the same as clicking the yellow button (on machines not hacked with Window Shade).

If that's turned off on your machine, go into the Appearance preference to turn it on.

MacHeadCase · MacHeadCase #9 (**permalink**)

02-17-2008, 02:03 PM

Browny, I had that Appearance pref turned on. So it really has to be a bug, me thinks.

I saw a few threads in Apple Discussions and other Mac forums on this problem and so far, nothing has been fixed.

It seems the bug appeared in the earlier versions of Tiger and is still alive and kicking in Leopard as well.

The game that made this bug appear for me was Zamby. I tried another one (can't remember the name of that one though) and the bug appeared after I played it too. Then tried another game in full-screen mode and the bug wasn't triggered, so it definitely is a combination of code between versions of Tiger and Leopard and certain code lines in games and apps (including Finder).

Some thought some lines of code in OpenGL were involved with this.

Quitting and relaunching apps (including Finder!) that exhibit the disabled minimize button usually solves this.

StormDev · StormDev #10 (**permalink**)

03-01-2009, 05:52 PM

I have the same problem with the minimize button going gray. Like fleurya, I run Windows XP full screen. In my case, I'm using Parallels, running in Space 2.

trepmal · trepmal #11 (**permalink**)

03-03-2009, 03:58 PM

I have the same issue, and I'd love a solution...

I'm running Windows XP fullscreen in space 2 with VirtualBox, which, based on what I've read above, is what's causing the problem.

For me, some windows will have a greyed out minimize button, while other windows of the same app will have a functioning button. The windows with the greyed out button won't let me minimize by double clicking the title bar, but I can on the window with the functioning button.
New windows will have the functioning button.
For apps like Mail, I can close the window (without quitting) and reopen it to get the button back.

doanjn · doanjn #12 (**permalink**)

03-07-2009, 11:36 PM

I'm running into this and so far I've felt it had something to do with Parallels. It really is a pain.

Santino · Santino #13 (**permalink**)

03-08-2009, 12:02 AM

I run XP with parallels full screen and never noticed this issue!

lucky me, first time i dodge one of this nasty bugs.

ericdl · ericdl #14 (**permalink**)

09-21-2012, 11:34 AM

1. Close whichever app is missing the button
2. Relaunch Finder via Force Quit
3. Relaunch the app. If the button is still missing, close any suspected offending programs and go to step #1.

This works for me, hopefully it will help someone else as well.

fleurya #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 18, 2006 Location: Anytown, USA Posts: 4,876 Mac Specs: 27" iMac 2.7GHz Core i5, iPhone 4S, 3rd gen iPad	02-12-2008, 10:17 AM This just started happening a couple days ago and is still going on even after the update. I'll have program open for a while and then for no reason the yellow button to minimize down to the Dock turns grey and unusable. The only way I can get it back is to restart the app. Any ideas/suggestions? "Give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others" Last edited by fleurya; 02-12-2008 at 12:58 PM.
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NPuter #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Jul 15, 2007 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 989 Mac Specs: 15" 2.2GHz Santa Rosa Macbook Pro - 4GB Ram - 120GB HD OS X Leopard - Windows XP	02-12-2008, 05:58 PM can you post a screen shot? "The forums are not only a place to have questions answered, they are a place to be part of a community..."
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NPuter #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Jul 15, 2007 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 989 Mac Specs: 15" 2.2GHz Santa Rosa Macbook Pro - 4GB Ram - 120GB HD OS X Leopard - Windows XP	02-17-2008, 10:34 AM that is really weird... I suppose you have already tried repairing your permissions "The forums are not only a place to have questions answered, they are a place to be part of a community..."
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fleurya #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 18, 2006 Location: Anytown, USA Posts: 4,876 Mac Specs: 27" iMac 2.7GHz Core i5, iPhone 4S, 3rd gen iPad	02-17-2008, 01:08 PM You were right, MHC!! Only, instead of a game, it's when I run Windows full screen using VMware Fusion. I run full screen Windows in one space and my Mac apps in another and toggle in between. I found that whenever I toggle back to the space with my Mac apps from the Windows space, the minimize buttons are inactive. If it's a bug, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It feels better knowing what it is, though. "Give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others"
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MacHeadCase #9 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	02-17-2008, 02:03 PM Browny, I had that Appearance pref turned on. So it really has to be a bug, me thinks. I saw a few threads in Apple Discussions and other Mac forums on this problem and so far, nothing has been fixed. It seems the bug appeared in the earlier versions of Tiger and is still alive and kicking in Leopard as well. The game that made this bug appear for me was Zamby. I tried another one (can't remember the name of that one though) and the bug appeared after I played it too. Then tried another game in full-screen mode and the bug wasn't triggered, so it definitely is a combination of code between versions of Tiger and Leopard and certain code lines in games and apps (including Finder). Some thought some lines of code in OpenGL were involved with this. Quitting and relaunching apps (including Finder!) that exhibit the disabled minimize button usually solves this. Last edited by MacHeadCase; 02-17-2008 at 02:36 PM.
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MacHeadCase #4 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	02-16-2008, 05:06 PM Is this an intermittent problem? If so, did you play a game or movie in full-screen mode right before the button disappears?
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MacHeadCase #6 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	02-17-2008, 11:31 AM I have the same problem playing certain games in full-screen mode. Once I quit the game, the minimize button disappears in the apps I had open as well as in Finder and I have to quit all the apps and Finder and relaunch them to get back the minimize button. It seems it's a bug in Tiger and Leopard combined with some kind of code that is present in some games. As for fleurya's problem, I dunno if this is brought on by game playing or not. He hasn't replied to my question yet. We'll know more later.
	QUOTE Thanks

StormDev #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 01, 2009 Posts: 4	03-01-2009, 05:52 PM I have the same problem with the minimize button going gray. Like fleurya, I run Windows XP full screen. In my case, I'm using Parallels, running in Space 2.
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trepmal #11 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 1	03-03-2009, 03:58 PM I have the same issue, and I'd love a solution... I'm running Windows XP fullscreen in space 2 with VirtualBox, which, based on what I've read above, is what's causing the problem. For me, some windows will have a greyed out minimize button, while other windows of the same app will have a functioning button. The windows with the greyed out button won't let me minimize by double clicking the title bar, but I can on the window with the functioning button. New windows will have the functioning button. For apps like Mail, I can close the window (without quitting) and reopen it to get the button back. Last edited by trepmal; 03-03-2009 at 04:03 PM.
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doanjn #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 07, 2009 Posts: 1	03-07-2009, 11:36 PM I'm running into this and so far I've felt it had something to do with Parallels. It really is a pain.
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Santino #13 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 30, 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 224	03-08-2009, 12:02 AM I run XP with parallels full screen and never noticed this issue! lucky me, first time i dodge one of this nasty bugs. Intel iMac 24" 2.8Ghz / 4gb PowerBook G4 12" 1.33Ghz / 1.25gb 2Gb Black iPod Nano 1G Canon 30D, recently inherited!
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ericdl #14 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 21, 2012 Posts: 1	09-21-2012, 11:34 AM 1. Close whichever app is missing the button 2. Relaunch Finder via Force Quit 3. Relaunch the app. If the button is still missing, close any suspected offending programs and go to step #1. This works for me, hopefully it will help someone else as well.
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