iMac - Downgrade from Leopard to Tiger

Gaprofitt · Gaprofitt #1 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 02:41 PM

Hi All,

We need to purchase about 40 new IMACS at work to replace Emacs, we have heard nightmare stories about Leopard not functioning with Active Directory and not working with older applications, etc. Can you downgrade the OS on newly purchased hardware to Tiger or must you use Leopard? We are not mac pro's so if anyone can give us a pro's and con's of staying with Leopard or downgrading that would be great.

Thanks,

Greg

saxnbass · saxnbass #2 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 02:56 PM

If you can get a retail copy of Tiger, sure you can do so. Or you can partition the hard drive and put Tiger onto the new partition and boot into Tiger (like you would with Bootcamp). You can still run all the apps from the Leopard partition while running Tiger.

I would do the 2nd because you can get both Tiger and Leopard. I have Leopard and have no personal problems with it, though that may not mean much to you.

louishen · louishen #3 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 02:56 PM

If they are all imacs then you could do it, but you would need 40 copies of tiger which is an additional cost

I would get a pathfinder imac (just the one) and then test it out with leopard before taking the plunge

also see this about the 10.05.1 update

http://hinkle.wordpress.com/2007/10/...ion-now-fixed/

Gaprofitt · Gaprofitt #4 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 03:16 PM

Why would we have to have a retail copy, does it do some type of version checking based on hardware revision?

technologist · technologist #5 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 03:23 PM

I would suggest that you get at least one copy of Leopard and test it out with your actual AD setup and applications before you base any 40-seat deployment decisions on "nightmare stories" you have "heard."

Fallooza · Fallooza #6 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 03:27 PM

...also i dont think you can buy a intel version of tiger. all intel macs had tiger.

The Vindicat3d · The Vindicat3d #7 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaprofitt

Why would we have to have a retail copy, does it do some type of version checking based on hardware revision?

No, but any other way of getting tiger would be illegal and to but tiger on your new Macs your going to have to buy tiger as the newer Macs come with Leopard... not tiger... and as everyone suggests just get one new Mac at first (with leopard) and test out leopard so you know if you have to go through the hassle of putting Tiger on all the new machines.

Sherman Homan · Sherman Homan #8 (**permalink**)

01-03-2008, 06:14 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it: there is no version of Tiger that you can (legally) buy that will work on an Intel chipped Mac. Leopard works fine under Active Directory. There are old programs that won't work with Leopard, but do you really want them? Are there alternatives?

Buds · Buds #9 (**permalink**)

01-11-2008, 03:39 PM

I need to downgrade from Leopard to Tiger, but I need to do so in a way that will keep my Creative Suite (original CS) installations. My predecessor here walked off with the disks when he was let go and now we are without the disks or serial number for CS. Any ideas?

Fallooza · Fallooza #10 (**permalink**)

01-11-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buds

I need to downgrade from Leopard to Tiger, but I need to do so in a way that will keep my Creative Suite (original CS) installations. My predecessor here walked off with the disks when he was let go and now we are without the disks or serial number for CS. Any ideas?

why do ya need ta down grade?

D3v1L80Y · D3v1L80Y #11 (**permalink**)

01-11-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallooza

...also i dont think you can buy a intel version of tiger.

Exactly. There isn't any retail version of Tiger that you could purchase to install on the Intel machines anyway.

D3v1L80Y · D3v1L80Y #12 (**permalink**)

01-11-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buds

I need to downgrade from Leopard to Tiger, but I need to do so in a way that will keep my Creative Suite (original CS) installations. My predecessor here walked off with the disks when he was let go and now we are without the disks or serial number for CS. Any ideas?

Buy a new version of the Adobe Suite. That or go after the person who left and took the discs (if they weren't his to begin with, if they were his then you are out of luck).

Buds · Buds #13 (**permalink**)

01-11-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallooza

why do ya need ta down grade?

We haven't implemented 10.5 company wide and we need to send this machine that we were using as a 10.5 test computer to someone in the field, thus the need to reload 10.4.

KB3GZW · KB3GZW #14 (**permalink**)

01-25-2008, 07:27 AM

So If I wanted to downgrade to 10.4 from 10.5 then I can do a "simple upgrade" to go back down to it. Or do I have to archive and install or clean install?

rman · rman #15 (**permalink**)

01-25-2008, 03:55 PM

Archive and install or a clean install. The upgrade install will not work from 10.5 to 10.4, since it is not an upgrade.

saxnbass #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: UK Posts: 304 Mac Specs: iMac (Aluminum), MacBook (Core Duo), iPod (Classic), 16GB iPhone 3G	01-03-2008, 02:56 PM If you can get a retail copy of Tiger, sure you can do so. Or you can partition the hard drive and put Tiger onto the new partition and boot into Tiger (like you would with Bootcamp). You can still run all the apps from the Leopard partition while running Tiger. I would do the 2nd because you can get both Tiger and Leopard. I have Leopard and have no personal problems with it, though that may not mean much to you. Eric MacBook: 2GHz, 2GB RAM, Core Duo; iMac: 2.4GHz, 3GB RAM, 500GB HDD. Both running Leopard; 160GB iPod Classic; and 16GB iPhone 3G, 1st 8GB Gen iPod Touch
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Sherman Homan #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 27, 2006 Location: Norwell, MA Posts: 897	01-03-2008, 06:14 PM Not to put too fine a point on it: there is no version of Tiger that you can (legally) buy that will work on an Intel chipped Mac. Leopard works fine under Active Directory. There are old programs that won't work with Leopard, but do you really want them? Are there alternatives? Sherman Homan http://macintoshsolutions.com http://shermanhoman.com http://grumblefix.com http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...s.781-749-9162 http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...x.781-424-5722
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KB3GZW #14 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 23, 2006 Location: Lehigh Valley, Pa Posts: 342 Mac Specs: 2.53 GHz MBP, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HDD	01-25-2008, 07:27 AM So If I wanted to downgrade to 10.4 from 10.5 then I can do a "simple upgrade" to go back down to it. Or do I have to archive and install or clean install? I Love Free Software. Ext. Storage: 500GB MyBook Pro, 1TB MyBook Studio iPod: 120 GB Classic - Phone : Treo 800w TWITTER Follow Me
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rman #15 (permalink)
Inactive Staff Member Since: Dec 24, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 12,591 Mac Specs: 2 x 3.0GHz Quad-Core, 6GB OS X 10.6.8 \| 15in MacBook Pro 2.2GHz OS X 10.6.8 \| 64GB iPad 2 WiFi	01-25-2008, 03:55 PM Archive and install or a clean install. The upgrade install will not work from 10.5 to 10.4, since it is not an upgrade. Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain!
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Gaprofitt #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 03, 2008 Posts: 4	01-03-2008, 02:41 PM Hi All, We need to purchase about 40 new IMACS at work to replace Emacs, we have heard nightmare stories about Leopard not functioning with Active Directory and not working with older applications, etc. Can you downgrade the OS on newly purchased hardware to Tiger or must you use Leopard? We are not mac pro's so if anyone can give us a pro's and con's of staying with Leopard or downgrading that would be great. Thanks, Greg
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Gaprofitt #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 03, 2008 Posts: 4	01-03-2008, 03:16 PM Why would we have to have a retail copy, does it do some type of version checking based on hardware revision?
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technologist #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 30, 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,744 Mac Specs: 12" Apple PowerBook G4 (1.5GHz)	01-03-2008, 03:23 PM I would suggest that you get at least one copy of Leopard and test it out with your actual AD setup and applications before you base any 40-seat deployment decisions on "nightmare stories" you have "heard."
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Fallooza #6 (permalink)
Member Since: May 13, 2005 Posts: 2,417	01-03-2008, 03:27 PM ...also i dont think you can buy a intel version of tiger. all intel macs had tiger.
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Buds #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 11, 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 13 Mac Specs: Too many to specify! :)	01-11-2008, 03:39 PM I need to downgrade from Leopard to Tiger, but I need to do so in a way that will keep my Creative Suite (original CS) installations. My predecessor here walked off with the disks when he was let go and now we are without the disks or serial number for CS. Any ideas?
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