06-27-2007, 06:12 PM

You closed a thread based on mis-information on your part. I hate to tell you that virtual machines have already been tested in our legal system and guess who lost. They and we are allowed to install to anything we want by U.S. law. Microsoft and Apple are no longer responsible for nor do they have to support those machines. But they are legal. The only company that has a contract with microsoft is vmware. You may not like this. I really don't care. But don't call me a criminal just because you have no leg to stand on.

I read the forum rules and did not break any. These companies are completely
legal. I'm personally not going to use them, but thats my choice.

You can ban me now if you want but do so lnowing that you are wrong.

06-27-2007, 06:15 PM

This is Apple's EULA agreement. Read carefully number 2.

Seems to me you are the misinformed one.

06-27-2007, 06:26 PM

Big deal...... 1000's die each day from starvation and we all wet our pants about Bill gates / Mac not earning another dime. I dont feel any pity for these mutli million $$ companies or they over paid staff.

Yes I buy chinese DVD's and yes I buy if possible copy software...... everyone has to eat...not just the rich

anyone live in the real world??

06-27-2007, 06:28 PM

Please provide some reference for your "guess who lost" statement.

Originally Posted by London Luke

Big deal...... 1000's die each day from starvation and we all wet our pants about Bill gates / Mac not earning another dime. I dont feel any pity for these mutli million $$ companies or they over paid staff.

Yes I buy chinese DVD's and yes I buy if possible copy software...... everyone has to eat...not just the rich

anyone live in the real world??

Yes, we all live in the "real" world. How once chooses to live in it is what counts. What would one "buy" copied software? Does stealing software put food on your table?

06-27-2007, 06:29 PM

perhaps it would be easier if you saw it with your own eyes.
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/...18/PearPC.html

This is OSX on a pc with virtual machine. There are dozens of this type of software. All from legitimate U.S. companies.

I've never seen a site that beleives these EULA's are that binding. I'll admit that I'm new to mac.

Is there actually a reason for this type of response. It seems to be a sore subject. I'm use to open-source and windows sites. I have linux,windows and
solaris. Everybody is aware of the ineffectiveness of EULA's. Programmers disagree for obvious reasons. But you seem to really disagree. Why?
I don't mean to offend you, but seriously. Why?

Any way follow the link and see for yourself. You can also just google OSX virtual machine and really find out.

06-27-2007, 06:33 PM

The guess who was microsoft. Sorry that was a little vague. I didn't mean to indicate Apple. They wanted to legally stop vm's but had to join one to get there pecie of the pie. Apple doen't seem to ever take any company to court for this. It's not there style. But I'm sure on trial. LOL.

06-27-2007, 06:39 PM

So many people coming out of law school nowadays...

06-27-2007, 06:40 PM

I read the forum rules and did not break any.

Thing is though, this is a private forum so anyone can be banned whether they've comitted the most heinous crime or been ever so slightly annoying.

7 posts in and starting threads like this does you no favours.

06-27-2007, 06:42 PM

If you have not figured it out, let me spell it out.

Talking about or posting about any potential illegal activities is frowned upon on this board. Not only is it against the forum rules as previously stated, but we like to keep everything above board here. If you don't like how we do things, there are plenty of other places you can go and do otherwise. This thread will be closed shortly and you will likely be banned. I hope you enjoyed yourself.

Yes, it is perfectly legal for you to run PearPC (I've seen it before BTW), but it still runs counter to Apple's EULA. Again, this boils down to personal Ethics. I'd have to see what the MS EULA says before I make a call on that one.

I'm still waiting for a link to a story where MS lost on the EULA issue.

06-27-2007, 06:42 PM

Holy crap baggs. lol. Don't compare me to that London Luke guy. I was just pointing something out. I don't own any pirated software. OMG. That's hilarious.

06-27-2007, 06:47 PM

I don't see where I compared you to him. I addressed both of you in one post but separately. Your original post in the now closed thread was, at best, a borderline rules violation.

06-27-2007, 06:50 PM

wornout, unfortunately, we chose to follow US law and under that law, at least at this time, the EULA is a valid contract. Therefore by advocating breaking the EULA and asking to do something that is prohibited, you are breaking the forum rules.

06-27-2007, 06:50 PM

Why microsoft signed with vmware is pretty well-known. If you want a link type into google microsoft sues or microsoft court. After you get through the first 10,000 links you can search through the next several million. You might also want to read all the court documents in law suits against linux distros,I.B.M, There recent $2billion dollar settlement with solaris. How about there 700-800 million dollar fine by the European Union that they just received. There victims are on sixty minutes. If you want to google that go right ahead.

06-27-2007, 06:52 PM

Besides I don't see why you're so set into discarding Apple hardware. The Mac Pro offers plenty of upgrade solutions for years to come. Why look at x86? It's not the only route.

06-27-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by wornout

Why microsoft signed with vmware is pretty well-known. If you want a link type into google microsoft sues or microsoft court. After you get through the first 10,000 links you can search through the next several million. You might also want to read all the court documents in law suits against linux distros,I.B.M, There recent $2billion dollar settlement with solaris. How about there 700-800 million dollar fine by the European Union that they just received. There victims are on sixty minutes. If you want to google that go right ahead.

So your not going to provide anything but "Google it" to back up you claim? NICE!