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    Lion OSX on Macbook 2.0Ghz - good idea or bad idea?
    I've got a macbook 2.0Ghz
    I want to install Lion OSX
    I've asked Apple and they've told me that yes it will run

    Just wanted to know if anyone has installed on the same system?
    Is it painfully unbearably slow?

    The ONLY thing I want it for is developing iPhone/iPad apps
    I don't need for ANYTHING else!

    From what I understand, I HAVE to have Lion OSX to develop for the latest versions of iPhone

    Thanks


    Omar

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    Do you by chance have the late 2007 Macbook with Santa Rosa chipset and 2.0 Ghz C2D? If so, running Lion here on mine and it's pretty snappy.

    How much Ram is in your Macbook? I upgraded to 4GB. With 2GB Lion would have ran out of RAM with a few things open.


    http://www.lowendmac.com/macbook/mac...rosa-2007.html

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    There are two 2GHz MBP the 'Yonah' Core Duo MacBook 1.1 model which will nor run lion, and the 'Merom' Core 2 Duo 2.1 model which will so you will need the Core 2 Duo model.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    Do you by chance have the late 2007 Macbook with Santa Rosa chipset and 2.0 Ghz C2D? If so, running Lion here on mine and it's pretty snappy.
    i replied to your post - not sure why my post hasn't appeared
    i have a 2007 2.0Ghz C2D - i looked at the link you gave - i don't think i have the santa rosa

    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    How much Ram is in your Macbook? I upgraded to 4GB. With 2GB Lion would have ran out of RAM with a few things open.
    i've been told by apple that the max i can increase to is 2GB
    what do u mean "ran out"? will it just crash!?
    so if i run office + adobe photoshop + final cut pro and watch a dvd at the same time it will crash?
    the ONLY thing i need from it is app development - if i can achieve this, i'm happy
    (the next goal is to get a new mac laptop - but my budget doesn't go that far)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    There are two 2GHz MBP the 'Yonah' Core Duo MacBook 1.1 model which will nor run lion, and the 'Merom' Core 2 Duo 2.1 model which will so you will need the Core 2 Duo model.
    thanks for the reply
    i've just had a look a the link given by @dtravis7

    it says:

    requires Mac OS X 10.5 to 10.7 Lion, not compatible with 10.8 Mountain Lion
    NOT being compatible with v 10.8 will be a problem for me
    i don't know why - but apple require u to have the latest OSX to develop for the latest version of the IOS

    let me know what u think

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    First, the URL was for my model Macbook. You still have told us the exact specs of yours so we can see what model you have. Is yours a Core Duo or Core2Duo? Makes a large difference.

    On the Mountain Lion part, a lot of MacBooks are being cut out of running ML when it comes out.

    On the Ram issue, What does Windows do when it runs out of RAM? Swaps to the hard drive and gets DOG SLOW. Same issue and if you have a machine that only takes 2GB RAM and run all you mentioned, it will slow way down.

    Please give us the exact specs and model so we can determine how much RAM for sure you can install. Some MacBooks that are listed at 2GB Max can go to 3GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    First, the URL was for my model Macbook. You still have told us the exact specs of yours so we can see what model you have. Is yours a Core Duo or Core2Duo? Makes a large difference.

    On the Mountain Lion part, a lot of MacBooks are being cut out of running ML when it comes out.

    On the Ram issue, What does Windows do when it runs out of RAM? Swaps to the hard drive and gets DOG SLOW. Same issue and if you have a machine that only takes 2GB RAM and run all you mentioned, it will slow way down.

    Please give us the exact specs and model so we can determine how much RAM for sure you can install. Some MacBooks that are listed at 2GB Max can go to 3GB.
    thanks for the reply. apologies - i thought the link gave just the one laptop
    it's definitely a core 2 duo. see this screen shot i took with my mobile:



    i'm 100% that 2GB is the max that can be installed. apple have confirmed this. AND, i can't seem to find anywhere that sells the memory where they give more than 2GB (2 x 1GB)

    regarding slowing down - i can live with this

    ALSO: Lion OSX ver 10.8 is not out yet! that's actually good news for me
    it means for the moment, i am OK

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    Did you check OWC?

    I believe this is your machine and if so, it will take 3GB no matter what Apple says.

    13" MacBook Core 2 (Late 2006)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    Did you check OWC?

    I believe this is your machine and if so, it will take 3GB no matter what Apple says.

    13" MacBook Core 2 (Late 2006)
    i haven't seen a 2gb chip anywhere though?
    + i've ordered 2gb off a seller on ebay!
    i'll still consider selling 1GB in return for a 2gb

    let me know

    thanks

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    thanks for the reply
    i'm in the uk - so no good for me
    i did a search on ebay and only found one: 2GB DDR2 667MHZ PC5300 PC2-5300 LAPTOP RAM MEMORY 200 PIN BRAND NEW DANE-ELEC | eBay

    EDIT: found this on amazon: ByteStor 2GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHz SO-DIMM Notebooks: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

    QUESTION: why can't i get 2 of these and get 4GB memory?
    i'm guessing theres a good reason for this?

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    You can put in 2x 2GB but due to chipset limitations you will only get 3GB. I am told it will work though.

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    i'll look into it
    having 3GB instead of 2GB how much 'better' will this make things for me?
    yes: i know that might be a hard question answer - as it depends on the usage! any sort of personal judgement would be helpful

    getting 4GB might be better if the cost of 1GB is nearly the same price

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    Interesting OM2 that both OWC and Mactracker both specify that model as handling 2 x 1GB modules only. Normally both will advise if more memory will work with a model. And if 3GB does work, it will of course make the machine a little more responsive, but do not expect the performance to be equal to a faster processor.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Having lost the plot a bit here, I think I'll chime in.

    1. I had a 2.16GHz MacBook (the BlackBook) running Lion on 3GB (2x2GB) of RAM -- you can PUT 4GB in but it will only see a maximum of 3.3GB (and report just 3GB). Lion ran as well as Snow Leopard did, perfectly fine for my uses.

    2. The poor graphics "card" (chipset) in those machines is the real problem. Google Earth, 1080p video, most serious games? Not gonna happen.

    3. Other than that, mine was a little workhorse and I loved it. The only reason I replaced it was that I wanted more RAM and a better graphics card -- and the battery was dying -- and I had some money lying around at the time. It all came together, you might say. The MBP I got to replace it has 8GB of RAM and a somewhat better graphics chipset, but it came cheap and works great.

    Anyway, for programming and app dev you should be fine on that machine. It's not the best choice but it's the most affordable one.

    You ARE going to need to step up to something newer (2008 or more recent) pretty soon, so I sincerely hope your iOS app does well for you!

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