02-04-2012, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by vansmith

There's an easy way to test it: come here and see how you handle it.

From a month ago:
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You read that right, -34°C with the wind.

I think... hugthelsug...this translates into Britspeak as "come and have a go if you think you're 'ard enough".
Van, I forgot to mention I played golf today in shorts and a tee shirt.

02-04-2012, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by pendlewitch

Van, I forgot to mention I played golf today in shorts and a tee shirt.

Oh yeah, you definitely don't have winter in the UK then. Only crazy people go out in shorts this time of year.

02-04-2012, 02:29 PM

And the nutty postmen in this country, they always wear shorts

Cheers

Hugh

02-04-2012, 02:46 PM

I have just updated to Lion 10.7.3 and I now have problems re-connecting to WiFi when waking up from 'Sleep'. Everything was fine before but now after the update my week old iMac is not working properly.

Has any one else had this problem and have you managed to fix it?

02-05-2012, 01:37 PM

I have read and heard the other way around , that the update fixed a lag in reconnecting to WiFi after sleep, not creating a lag.

Cheers ... McBie

02-05-2012, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by vansmith

There's an easy way to test it: come here and see how you handle it.

From a month ago:
Attachment 16840

You read that right, -34°C with the wind.

One of my colleagues in Canada confirmed this .... She has seen a polar bear carrying a stove, so it must be cold.
Last night we had -18 Celsius in Belgium, no wind however. At noon it was -11.

Are we hijacking this thread ?

Cheers ... McBie

02-05-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by vansmith

It's possible that Apple is now just pushing out the combo update to prevent these weird errors that people are seeing. It's a good way to ensure that users don't experience this problem.

I'm not sure if my old statement was right but according to this article, the package has been silently updated by Apple. It looks as if they found the issue and have made changes to prevent it from affecting those who have not yet updated.

02-05-2012, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by McBie

One of my colleagues in Canada confirmed this .... She has seen a polar bear carrying a stove, so it must be cold.
Last night we had -18 Celsius in Belgium, no wind however. At noon it was -11.

Are we hijacking this thread ?

Cheers ... McBie

No you're not McBie....I had some update issues but posted that I couldn't do anything yesterday on my iMac because I was playing golf instead...then the mickey taking started about the weather.

I have now managed to update with the Combo version from the Apple Support/Downloads page, installing over the one originally downloaded by the Software Updater and my problems appear to have melted away.

02-08-2012, 01:48 PM

I was out doing a job of work today surveying some multi-occupancy business premises and the first tenant's door I knocked on was an APPLECARE repair business.

Needless to say my mundane visit turned into a Macfest!!

Now, I got talking about this update issue and they were absolutely adamant that I should steer well clear of what they referred to as 'Delta' updates , or the one's pushed from 'Software Update' and ONLY download those from the Apple Support Downloads page and COMBO versions wherever possible and NOT IMMEDIATELY after they are released.

In their opinion the latest initial update was disappointing and it was rapidly pulled off the shelf by Apple until they got it right (ish).

Apart from the issues I reported earlier, I've also had a kernel panic when doing an initial TM back up with a new external HD . TM appeared to finish the job after I restarted the Mac but in their opinion they advised me to wipe the external HD and do the back up again from scratch because it would likely be corrupted.

I think I may now be ok..but that's a lesson learned.

02-08-2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by pendlewitch

Now, I got talking about this update issue and they were absolutely adamant that I should steer well clear of what they referred to as 'Delta' updates , or the one's pushed from 'Software Update' and ONLY download those from the Apple Support Downloads page and COMBO versions wherever possible and NOT IMMEDIATELY after they are released.

I'm interested to know the logic behind this. While I agree with the "wait for a bit" argument, I'm not sure how a delta is any worse than a combo. Did they explain why?

02-08-2012, 02:16 PM

They don't trust them implicitly vansmith and certainly not deltas as big as this one.

There was a lot of head shaking the moment I mentioned 'Software Update', and the impression I got was that it was as if, allegedly , Apple are pushing out Beta versions and then fixing everything in the combo if there are any issues. That is my own opinion of course but a conclusion I came to nonetheless.

02-08-2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by jonmuss

I have just updated to Lion 10.7.3 and I now have problems re-connecting to WiFi when waking up from 'Sleep'. Everything was fine before but now after the update my week old iMac is not working properly.

Has any one else had this problem and have you managed to fix it?

Same here and the same with many other folks. (Check the Apple user forums) Apple posted the Airport fix in 10.7.3 but it looks like it also "broke" what was previously working OK. I'm not sure if it's a problem only with an iMac (I also have a 2011 iMac) as I have not had a chance to test it on my MacBook yet.

It doesn't do it all the time but often enough to be annoying. As far as a fix is concerned, there is none until Apple addresses it in a future update.

02-08-2012, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by jonmuss

I have just updated to Lion 10.7.3 and I now have problems re-connecting to WiFi when waking up from 'Sleep'. Everything was fine before but now after the update my week old iMac is not working properly.

Has any one else had this problem and have you managed to fix it?

Interesting - I thought 10.7.3 was supposed to fix this. I haven't put it on my iMac yet - but I've had that problem with the iMac ever since moving to Lion - and yet - it still hasn't occurred on the MBP - also running Lion under any rev (it is updated to 10.7.3). Odd.

02-08-2012, 02:31 PM

As I just posted above your post..... The 10.7.3 update broke what wasn't broken, and fixed what was broke. I'm thinking the airport update was intended only for portables and broke what was working OK in the iMac. I need to test my MacBook for that theory though. I'll run a test this evening when I get back home.

02-08-2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by chscag

As I just posted above your post..... The 10.7.3 update broke what wasn't broken, and fixed what was broke. I'm thinking the airport update was intended only for portables and broke what was working OK in the iMac. I need to test my MacBook for that theory though. I'll run a test this evening when I get back home.

Right - but what's curious is that it was always broken for me on the iMac - even at 10.7.1 - worked fine with SL. So I find it curious that now others are experiencing that with the latest update - also curious that I've never seen it on the MBP.