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I do not want any adobe flash on my mac. Is there any way around this? How do I view youtube videos embedded on other sites without getting adobe flash on my mbp?
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You can try VLC:
VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework!
(make it a helper app for .flv Flash Video file types)
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Thank you gsahli. I tried this after you suggested it but I get a screen that says " your download will start in 0 seconds and under that:

"missing plugin"

What plugin is missing before I can download VLC instead of flash?
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I need to view content for example at Corruption Perceptions Index: Transparency International
but unfortunately i get an irritating little icon saying "get adobe flash player". I do not want adobe flash player, i want an alternative. Is there any? I am willing to PAY for an alternative, but I don't know that any exists.
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There is no alternative to play Flash content

The best alternative is to install flash but add a flash blocker to your browser that only plays flash content when you choose to click on a flash movie and play it

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Thank you louishen.

That is appalling isn't it? Adobe then, has a monopoly on video content on the internet. Who knew?

Are you sure though? It seems unbelievable.
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If you want to view Flash content, you need Flash. It's as simple as that. You can't view content in a format that doesn't exist on their servers. That said, there are some workarounds for some sites (such as using VLC to play YouTube clips).

The problem here isn't actually Adobe. In fact, Flash provides a method of viewing content that solves a lot of problems. Given that each browser supports different video codecs, Flash provides a simple cross platform and browser agnostic means of serving up content. It could be argued that Adobe has managed to make things easier for content distributors. Don't get me wrong - I hate Flash with a passion. That said, from a distributors point of view, it's great.

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Thank you louishen.

That is appalling isn't it? Adobe then, has a monopoly on video content on the internet. Who knew?

Are you sure though? It seems unbelievable.
Actually, they don't. There are plenty of other codecs. It's just that the content you want to view was created with Flash. That's a decision the creator made, not a monopoly.

You have a choice, don't view the content.

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Thank you all very much for your interesting ideas. I chatted to a friend who is an IT teacher and he said that my problem should be resolved soon when flash will become more or less redundant as html5 becomes the new thing for web content. I should just wait a while until html5 supersedes flash and i will then be able to view all the flash video content on my MBP without having to install any adobe plugins or add-ons.

Is there any truth in this?
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If you want to view Flash content, you need Flash. It's as simple as that. You can't view content in a format that doesn't exist on their servers. That said, there are some workarounds for some sites (such as using VLC to play YouTube clips).

The problem here isn't actually Adobe. In fact, Flash provides a method of viewing content that solves a lot of problems. Given that each browser supports different video codecs, Flash provides a simple cross platform and browser agnostic means of serving up content. It could be argued that Adobe has managed to make things easier for content distributors. Don't get me wrong - I hate Flash with a passion. That said, from a distributors point of view, it's great.
The reason I find it astonishing is that if I want to view a jpeg file, or an mpeg file, or a tiff or avi file, there are very many options as to what software I choose to view the content. But with flash content I am restricted to adobe software. Surely alternative methods of viewing the content directly have been developed. No?
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Actually, they don't. There are plenty of other codecs. It's just that the content you want to view was created with Flash. That's a decision the creator made, not a monopoly.

You have a choice, don't view the content.
I cannot accept your argument. What you are saying is that all the video content on youtube was created using flash and therefore I need flash to view the content. That is patently not true. producers of content for youtube use all manner of means to create video content, yet I can only view the material if i have flash installed on my machine. It doesn't make sense to me.
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Flash provides a method of viewing content that solves a lot of problems. Given that each browser supports different video codecs, Flash provides a simple cross platform and browser agnostic means of serving up content.
Thank you van smith. I understand your explanation. I just find it astonishing that it seems that flash ALONE "provides a simple cross platform ... means of serving up content." Are there no other options to decode the video content? Most of the material I am interested in viewing was (i believe) created apart from any adobe merchandise. And yet I am forced to install adobe goods on my system in order to view the material. It's trippy and unbelievable to me.
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The reason I find it astonishing is that if I want to view a jpeg file, or an mpeg file, or a tiff or avi file, there are very many options as to what software I choose to view the content. But with flash content I am restricted to adobe software. Surely alternative methods of viewing the content directly have been developed. No?
Yes but Flash content has to be viewed through a Flash player and while there are alternative Flash plugins, Adobe's is leagues ahead of those given that it is an Adobe technology. It's impossible not to use a plugin and in all honesty, if you need to view Flash content, the official plugin from Adobe is the best route to take.

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I cannot accept your argument. What you are saying is that all the video content on youtube was created using flash and therefore I need flash to view the content. That is patently not true. producers of content for youtube use all manner of means to create video content, yet I can only view the material if i have flash installed on my machine. It doesn't make sense to me.
Yes, but when video is uploaded to YouTube, it is transcoded as a Flash video. It doesn't matter what you upload since it's all converted anyway.

Now, you could use YouTube's HTML5 beta but that only supports a portion of their videos (this number grows by the day).

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Now, you could use YouTube's HTML5 beta but that only supports a portion of their videos (this number grows by the day).
Thanks. I am going to start looking into HTML5.

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hmf! I just tried to install gmail phone calling app. I can't do that unless i have flash on my machine. I don't want flash. *sigh* what to do?
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