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Hi guys, I am new here and glad to have found this site! Even though it will not work with the Opera browser? I am somewhat green and you will probably be hearing from me often. I know all you computer wiz's are already laughing but wait there is more. I have an iMAC Power PC G4 20" flat panel unit with SuperDrive, 768mb of memory and thinking about going to 2GB. Running version 10.3.9 Panther, now I know your really laughing! I have had it since about 2004 and really like it even though I know it is somewhat out dated with the intel core 2 duo processors now a days. Anyway, I am staring to experience some browsing problems and adobe flash player 9 problems just to name a few. After some research from what I understand, have found that I cannot upgrade adobe flash player until I upgrade my browser, cannot upgrade my browser until I upgrade my operating system and cannot upgrade my operating system until I increase the memory and perform a back up before doing so which I think requires an external hard drive? My question is: What would be the absolute latest MAC OS 10 operating system I can use with my current unit if I increase the memory to 1 or 2GB? Would I have to install Tiger then Leopard and so on to get to the latest operating system I can use which sounds like it would take up a lot of my memory? Or can I just go from Panther directly to the latest operating system I can use on this particular iMAC? When you are done laughing and catch your breath, PLEASE RESPOND!!!!! Thanks for you time.
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Welcome to the Mac Forums.

Leopard 10.5.8 is as far as you can go with your system if you take it up to 2 GB. Tiger 10.4.11 would probably be better.

Also when posting, break up your post into smaller paragraphs. That makes it easier for us to read and will garner more responses.

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I went ahead and changed the title of the thread to something more descriptive. Your username doesn't tell us much.

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Thanks chas and van for both your help and the suggestions. Why would Tiger 10.4.11 be better than Leopard 10.5.8? I thought the higher the number the better. Also, some browsers and plug-ins and apps will not support system requirements any less than a 10.5.8 operating system. Thanks
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Thanks chas and van for both your help and the suggestions. Why would Tiger 10.4.11 be better than Leopard 10.5.8?
In almost all cases...the "newer" the OS version...the more system resources a computer needs to run that newer OS version efficiently.

The reason why "chscag" recommended OS 10.4.11...is it will probably run faster than OS 10.5.8. Your computer is not the newest...thus it may not run 10.5.8 well.

Obviously if you have browsers or applications that NEED OS 10.5.8...then run OS 10.5.8.

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Thanks pigoo3. Boy you guys are fast! Can I go directly to Leopard from Panther? Or would I have to install Tiger first? I just received the 4 disc install 10.4 for Tiger today. Or would it be a good idea to have all 3? Panther, Tiger and Leopard? Thanks
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Thanks pigoo3. Boy you guys are fast! Can I go directly to Leopard from Panther? Or would I have to install Tiger first? I just received the 4 disc install 10.4 for Tiger today.
I'm pretty sure you need to install Tiger first....and since (as it seems) those are the only OS install disks you have...might as well do the install.

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Or would it be a good idea to have all 3? Panther, Tiger and Leopard? Thanks
If the computer already has Panther (10.3) on it...and you don't plan on going back to Panther...then you won't need the install disks for 10.3. But once you upgrade to 10.4 (and 10.5 if you plan to)...10.3 is gone...no going back (without the install disks).

So it sounds like you:

- don't have 10.3 disks
- you do have 10.4
- and you don't have 10.5.

So obviously if you want to install 10.5...you will need that install DVD as well (about $100 on e-Bay).

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p.s. By the way...what color are your 10.4 disks?

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Yes I am currently running Panther and still have the install discs from when I bought the system.
The disc I got today for Tiger are black but no instruction manual.
Can I do the install for Tiger with the 768mb I have now or should I wait and install at least 1GB of memory?
I currently have 57GB of hard drive space left and it came with 80BG.
No I do not have Leopard 10.5 yet but would like to have it once I upgrade to 2GB of memory. Thanks
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Yes I am currently running Panther and still have the install discs from when I bought the system.
Ahh...I see...great that you have them.

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The disc I got today for Tiger are black but no instruction manual. Can I do the install for Tiger with the 768mb I have now or should I wait and install at least 1GB of memory?
Good that the disks are black...those are the ones you need. Here are OS 10.4 & 10.5 system requirements:

Mac OS X 10.4: System requirements
Requirements for Mac OS X v10.5

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Thanks. Where should my system be at when I install Tiger? Should I be connected to the internet or just at the desktop with all apps and browsers closed not connected to the internet?
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Thanks. Where should my system be at when I install Tiger? Should I be connected to the internet or just at the desktop with all apps and browsers closed not connected to the internet?
I usually have all apps. closed, and have my computer connected to the internet (but this really isn't 100% necessary when installing from disks).

Once you have 10.4 installed from the disks...then you definitely want to be connected to the internet...to get the software updates for 10.4...to get you fully updated to the latest & last version of 10.4...which is 10.4.11.

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- Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
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Ok, I understand. Will I lose all my current bookmarks, apps, plug-ins and so on that I have now? Kinda scared!
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Ok, I understand. Will I lose all my current bookmarks, apps, plug-ins and so on that I have now? Kinda scared!
Being in the military & getting shot at by the enemy is a reason to be scared...no need to be scared doing a computer OS upgrade.

The most important things on your HD are probably personal videos, photos, music, word processing or spreadsheet documents, personal photos, etc. Back-up all of this stuff on an external drive...and there's nothing to be scared about.

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- Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
- Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
- Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
- Apple Battery Info. Battery
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Will do, thanks for your help. Experiencing bad weather down here in New Orleans and thought it would be best to wait for it to pass. Do not want to perform this install and have a power failure during install.
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PS Thank you pigoo3 for your time in the military and protecting our country and me. Thanks again!!!
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