Huge page outs memory problem!

mac_mac · mac_mac #1 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:22 AM

I have an imac running sl with 4gb of ram. Suddenly, the system started running really slow - no update or anything, just after powering on this morning.

In activity monitor, the free ram dissapears after a few seconds to 5 - 8 mb and the remainder is mostly taken up with an active state. This is without me starting any programmes up.

Also, straight away the page in and outs start rising - its been about 5 minutes now and theyre both on about 5gb already. I repeat, im not starting up any programmes!

Can anyone help?

mac_mac · mac_mac #2 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:24 AM

Oh yeah, VM is on 121gb also. Seems a little large!?

mac_mac · mac_mac #3 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:32 AM

Also, sitting here watching the activity monitor, it seems every few minutes the majority of the pie chart goes green but then fills up again with yellow.

bobtomay · bobtomay #4 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:42 AM

What does Activity Monitor show is using all the RAM when it fills up?

mac_mac · mac_mac #5 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:43 AM

Heres a screen so you can see whats running.

mac_mac · mac_mac #6 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobtomay

What does Activity Monitor show is using all the RAM when it fills up?

Nothing as such?!

bobtomay · bobtomay #7 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 08:54 AM

What Native instruments app are you running?

There are also issues with Apogee's Duet and Lion.

Open up Applications / Utilities / Console and see what the logs are indicating.

(That's about the cleanest looking Activity Monitor I've ever seen. I have about 3 pages of stuff all the time. And that VM number is always extremely large. Mine is sitting at 190+GB currently)

mac_mac · mac_mac #8 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 09:09 AM

There seems to be a lot of this;

23/07/2011 13:56:52 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[286]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error

23/07/2011 13:56:52 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:56:52.687 ReportCrash[285:1407] Saved crash report for mdworker[286] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135652_localhost.crash

23/07/2011 13:56:58 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[288]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error

23/07/2011 13:56:58 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:56:58.328 ReportCrash[285:2907] Saved crash report for mdworker[288] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135658_localhost.crash

23/07/2011 13:57:03 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[289]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error

23/07/2011 13:57:03 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:57:03.660 ReportCrash[285:380b] Saved crash report for mdworker[289] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135703_localhost.crash

bobtomay · bobtomay #9 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 09:44 AM

Well, those are all spotlight... with a bus error.

Perhaps some external drive or device that it's trying to index and is not connected to your machine currently.

I had to go into mine and re-add all the locations and drives I didn't want it indexing. The Lion upgrade had removed all of my previous Spotlight preferences. It was even indexing my TM backup - for what I ask?

And I welcome any other thoughts out there.

mac_mac · mac_mac #10 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 09:53 AM

You absolutely right, thanks!

mdworker was trying to index an external drive. I dont know why afetr a year this has started causing problems but ive moved it into the spotlight privacy pane now and all is well.

Cheers!

bobtomay · bobtomay #11 (**permalink**)

07-23-2011, 10:00 AM

Glad that was it, because I wouldn't have been much more help.

currentmusik · currentmusik #12 (**permalink**)

11-29-2011, 02:46 PM

Hi guys.
I have just jumped into the same problem (again), and it happened (again) after I updated my Audio Kontrol 1 from Native Instruments. (It seems to happen everytime I update something from NI, and because I need to work, I used Time Maschine and went back to a date when it was working). I imagined that updating the Audio Kontrol would not afftect it but it did.

I also ran a TM backup last night, and now when I connect it, it starts to do a backup of the whole drive...?

MAybe I should leave the mdworker and let it finish? I have put a drive that it intended to index into the privacy and error messages stopped, but mdworker still works full speed.

Any ideas?.

Thanks.
Robert.

currentmusik · currentmusik #13 (**permalink**)

11-29-2011, 03:52 PM

A temorary solution that seems to work is putting the internal HD i Privacy of SPotlight, kind of puts the whole Spotlight thing to waste. Many people seems to htink that it is a Lion problem, I am still on SNow, to me it seems to be a problem with program that is Lion compatible. Thats why I ran into the same thing several times when trying to upgrade to last version of Reaktor, Massive etc. from Native I.

R.

pigoo3 · pigoo3 #14 (**permalink**)

11-29-2011, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by currentmusik

Any ideas?.

Please read the "Beachballs" link in my signature...it may help.

- Nick

currentmusik · currentmusik #15 (**permalink**)

11-29-2011, 04:11 PM

Hi Nick.
I do restart my computer at least once a day, I also see that mdworker is crashing a lot. I also postively sure that I have enough ram (A new i7 Pro with 4 gigs), and its starts after updating my Native Instrument applications....weird. I have tried it like 3-4 times now, since I obviously want to have the latest updates, but everytime I have gone back to and earlier date (with TM) and it solve the problem.

Hoping for a sloution of course, but...I need my daw up and running.

R.

bobtomay #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 22,036 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	07-23-2011, 08:42 AM What does Activity Monitor show is using all the RAM when it fills up? I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus.
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bobtomay #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 22,036 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	07-23-2011, 08:54 AM What Native instruments app are you running? There are also issues with Apogee's Duet and Lion. Open up Applications / Utilities / Console and see what the logs are indicating. (That's about the cleanest looking Activity Monitor I've ever seen. I have about 3 pages of stuff all the time. And that VM number is always extremely large. Mine is sitting at 190+GB currently) I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus.
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bobtomay #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 22,036 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	07-23-2011, 09:44 AM Well, those are all spotlight... with a bus error. Perhaps some external drive or device that it's trying to index and is not connected to your machine currently. I had to go into mine and re-add all the locations and drives I didn't want it indexing. The Lion upgrade had removed all of my previous Spotlight preferences. It was even indexing my TM backup - for what I ask? And I welcome any other thoughts out there. I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus.
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bobtomay #11 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 22,036 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	07-23-2011, 10:00 AM Glad that was it, because I wouldn't have been much more help. I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus.
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mac_mac #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 24, 2011 Posts: 13	07-23-2011, 08:22 AM I have an imac running sl with 4gb of ram. Suddenly, the system started running really slow - no update or anything, just after powering on this morning. In activity monitor, the free ram dissapears after a few seconds to 5 - 8 mb and the remainder is mostly taken up with an active state. This is without me starting any programmes up. Also, straight away the page in and outs start rising - its been about 5 minutes now and theyre both on about 5gb already. I repeat, im not starting up any programmes! Can anyone help?
	QUOTE Thanks

mac_mac #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 24, 2011 Posts: 13	07-23-2011, 08:24 AM Oh yeah, VM is on 121gb also. Seems a little large!?
	QUOTE Thanks

mac_mac #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 24, 2011 Posts: 13	07-23-2011, 08:43 AM Heres a screen so you can see whats running.
	QUOTE Thanks

mac_mac #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 24, 2011 Posts: 13	07-23-2011, 09:09 AM There seems to be a lot of this; 23/07/2011 13:56:52 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[286]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error 23/07/2011 13:56:52 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:56:52.687 ReportCrash[285:1407] Saved crash report for mdworker[286] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135652_localhost.crash 23/07/2011 13:56:58 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[288]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error 23/07/2011 13:56:58 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:56:58.328 ReportCrash[285:2907] Saved crash report for mdworker[288] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135658_localhost.crash 23/07/2011 13:57:03 com.apple.launchd[1] (0x10041cab0.mach_init.mdworker[289]) Job appears to have crashed: Bus error 23/07/2011 13:57:03 com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[285] 2011-07-23 13:57:03.660 ReportCrash[285:380b] Saved crash report for mdworker[289] version ??? (???) to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mdworker_2011-07-23-135703_localhost.crash
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mac_mac #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 24, 2011 Posts: 13	07-23-2011, 09:53 AM You absolutely right, thanks! mdworker was trying to index an external drive. I dont know why afetr a year this has started causing problems but ive moved it into the spotlight privacy pane now and all is well. Cheers!
	QUOTE Thanks

currentmusik #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 26, 2011 Posts: 6	11-29-2011, 02:46 PM Hi guys. I have just jumped into the same problem (again), and it happened (again) after I updated my Audio Kontrol 1 from Native Instruments. (It seems to happen everytime I update something from NI, and because I need to work, I used Time Maschine and went back to a date when it was working). I imagined that updating the Audio Kontrol would not afftect it but it did. I also ran a TM backup last night, and now when I connect it, it starts to do a backup of the whole drive...? MAybe I should leave the mdworker and let it finish? I have put a drive that it intended to index into the privacy and error messages stopped, but mdworker still works full speed. Any ideas?. Thanks. Robert.
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currentmusik #13 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 26, 2011 Posts: 6	11-29-2011, 03:52 PM A temorary solution that seems to work is putting the internal HD i Privacy of SPotlight, kind of puts the whole Spotlight thing to waste. Many people seems to htink that it is a Lion problem, I am still on SNow, to me it seems to be a problem with program that is Lion compatible. Thats why I ran into the same thing several times when trying to upgrade to last version of Reaktor, Massive etc. from Native I. R.
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currentmusik #15 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 26, 2011 Posts: 6	11-29-2011, 04:11 PM Hi Nick. I do restart my computer at least once a day, I also see that mdworker is crashing a lot. I also postively sure that I have enough ram (A new i7 Pro with 4 gigs), and its starts after updating my Native Instrument applications....weird. I have tried it like 3-4 times now, since I obviously want to have the latest updates, but everytime I have gone back to and earlier date (with TM) and it solve the problem. Hoping for a sloution of course, but...I need my daw up and running. R.
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