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    Beach Head
    Leopard was spending far too much time on beachballs on my 2008 Mac Pro 2.8GHz 8-core, 6BGb, with 100Gb free on the boot disk. Things are a lot worse since being Snowed-up. Booting used to be < 1 min, and ready for use.

    Now on 10.6.7, arriving at the lovely blue screen gets the beachball spinning before the before menubar appears. Long wait to be used. Always 100Gb free.

    1. iTunes - in days of G3, I've never known a machine that can't play a tune. I get more than 50% pausing, like a scratched CD. That is frustrating. I use it constantly

    2. Finder does tend to spend a good time on 50-99%. Dock (WindowServer) gets stuck frozen (maginfied 100% at full size). From 2 seconds to several minutes to respond.

    3. Safari seems better since resetting. I wish the Top Sites preview fetcher could be disabled. How about the option, Apple? Flash can be disabled by disabling plug-ins. I spend too long switching this on/off per site.

    The boot disk makes a lot of grinding noise, now that iTunes is silent. I'm sure it was the same noise when iTunes was always working, when I never heard it. Verifying the disk comes up trumps all green. Repairing permissions is regular for me, with no benefit.

    I ain't reinstalling the OS. I want to address in within first. The only CPU usage anywhere close to 80% is when using Handbrake and running SQL Server 2008 in VMWare WinXP. The beachballs prevent me from clicking for 10 minutes+ when the max CPU activity is 2%. In this state, when I get a second to click on a non-running dock item, it does bounce for 10, 20, 30 minutes. Sometimes no bounce - just ignoring me.

    My standby G4 gives no beachballs, ever; used as a file server. When busy transferring files, and screen sharing, at 100% CPU, nothing stalls. It didn't have to reboot for 8 months at a stretch

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    Back to my old 2.2GHz C2D MB after selling my MBP and wondering what my next Mac will be :)
    Even though 'verifying the disk comes up trumps all green', it just sounds like a bad HD.
    The grinding noise from your boot disk isn't a positive!

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    It's the grinding noise you get from a Mac when you get the packaging out of the way and start it up, in a quiet room

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    What grinding noise?

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    Exactly, I've never heard any grinding noises from mine.

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    Give this a try and report back as to what it says:

    Apple - Downloads - System/Disk Utilities - SMART Utility
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

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    Smart shows FAILING. I have 73Gb of difference backup since the last one in April, so kicking this off... It's gonna take days. That grinder is in it's last throes. I'm leaving it by itself to do that, using my pad to send this.

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    The grinding noise sounds like a very busy wood pigeon, especially when booting and, now, when backing up.

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    Is it Ok to restore to the original 320Gb disk? Will the FAILING status go away? It's less than 2 years old! All my G4's four disks are perfect after 11 years - no beachballs there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchymike@mac View Post
    Is it Ok to restore to the original 320Gb disk? Will the FAILING status go away?
    I don't have a clear understanding of how your disks are configured, but the "FAILED" status is unique to the specific drive you scanned with the SMART utility. So, yes, if you're changing out that drive, the replacement won't read the same status (assuming it itself is a good drive).


    It's less than 2 years old! All my G4's four disks are perfect after 11 years - no beachballs there!
    Hard drives are mechanical in nature, and as with all devices with moving parts, it's not a question of "if" it's going to fail, but "when". I'd say you've been really lucky that you haven't experienced a failed mech in your older machine (yet).
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

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    The 320gb was the one included with the Pro. I reckon that's terrible to fail by now. Would you try a clean Snow install on the clean disk, all the upgrades and then the backup restored, and see how long it lasts, or would you dispose of it immewdiately, with the mechanical failure making it untrustworthy? I think all the freezes and almost unusable status is all down to that disk.

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