New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
OS X - Operating System General OS operation information and support

New account for sandboxing?


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
andymac2210

 
Member Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posts: 76
andymac2210 is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: 13.3" macbook pro (2010) 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb RAM, 500GB HD.

andymac2210 is offline
Before I start this thread, I'll just say, yes I know there's not many or any known virii in the wild for mac computers.
However, I am exceptionally paranoid and would like some sort of way to test potentially 'unsafe' software.

I'm just wondering if creating a new user account (without admin privileges) would be a way to install stuff and leave my main account safe?
QUOTE Thanks
chscag

 
chscag's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 23, 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 39,136
chscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, 3 iPods, OS X Mavericks

chscag is online now
For the "exceptionally paranoid" person, (those are your words, not mine) the best way is to have a separate test machine completely isolated by itself. Load the software on it first. It it's OK, you can then install it on your working machine.

The method you describe above does not work in Windows. And since there are no known viruses in the wild for OS X, I don't know if it would work in OS X. But why take a chance? (again, for the exceptionally paranoid person)

Also, please read our Sticky notice and FAQ about viruses and malware. It's located at the top of the Switcher Forum. LINK
QUOTE Thanks
andymac2210

 
Member Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posts: 76
andymac2210 is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: 13.3" macbook pro (2010) 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb RAM, 500GB HD.

andymac2210 is offline
Just because there are no known viruses, doesn't mean there aren't exploits people can use to take control of your system and steal your credit card info.

Pwn2own finds them in abundance every year, so yeah, every PDF, dmg and file you run has the potential to be malicious.
QUOTE Thanks
chscag

 
chscag's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 23, 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 39,136
chscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, 3 iPods, OS X Mavericks

chscag is online now
So, follow the advice I gave you above. There's nothing wrong with playing it safe. It's your machine, your personal info. Do what you think is right for yourself.
QUOTE Thanks
vansmith

 
vansmith's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 19, 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 17,771
vansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 2012 13" MBP (2.5 i5, 8GB)

vansmith is offline
Perhaps the most important question out of all this is "why are you testing potentially 'unsafe' software?"

Important Links: Community Guidelines : Use the reputation system if you've been helped.
M-F Blog :: Write for the blog
Writing a Quality Post
QUOTE Thanks
andymac2210

 
Member Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posts: 76
andymac2210 is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: 13.3" macbook pro (2010) 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb RAM, 500GB HD.

andymac2210 is offline
All software not from the app store is potentially unsafe.
QUOTE Thanks
vansmith

 
vansmith's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 19, 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 17,771
vansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond reputevansmith has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 2012 13" MBP (2.5 i5, 8GB)

vansmith is offline
Who's to say that software from the App Store is always going to be safe? Complacency can be quite dangerous.

What I'm getting at is that, on the internet, no place is completely safe. Stick to trusted sources, be smart and you should be fine.

Important Links: Community Guidelines : Use the reputation system if you've been helped.
M-F Blog :: Write for the blog
Writing a Quality Post
QUOTE Thanks
schweb

 
schweb's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 27, 2002
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 13,198
schweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond reputeschweb has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: MacBook Pro | LED Cinema Display | iPhone 4 | iPad 2

schweb is offline
IMHO, if you're that paranoid, you shouldn't be on the internet.

schweb | community leader
flickr facebook twitter tumblr google+ about.me

Mac-Forums: On Twitter | On Facebook | On Flickr

QUOTE Thanks
andymac2210

 
Member Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posts: 76
andymac2210 is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: 13.3" macbook pro (2010) 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb RAM, 500GB HD.

andymac2210 is offline
Instead of calling me paranoid or questioning my reasons for wanting to do this, can anyone just tell me if it'd work?
QUOTE Thanks
chscag

 
chscag's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 23, 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 39,136
chscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, 3 iPods, OS X Mavericks

chscag is online now
No one is calling you anything that you haven't already referred to yourself. And, I believe the answer I gave you above should be sufficient to keep you safe. (It may not be practical since it requires two machines.)

We can not honestly tell you if the solution you proposed will work. I stated that it definitely does not work on a Windows machine and may not work on your Mac. But if you feel that you'd like to create another account and use it to download and install files which you got from the internet, then go ahead and do it.
QUOTE Thanks
Davanw

 
Member Since: Apr 20, 2009
Location: Calgary
Posts: 137
Davanw is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: 15" MBP

Davanw is offline
How about using a virtual machine as your sandbox?
QUOTE Thanks
chscag

 
chscag's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 23, 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 39,136
chscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond reputechscag has a reputation beyond repute
Mac Specs: 27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, 3 iPods, OS X Mavericks

chscag is online now
A virtual machine running what? You can not run OS X as a VM from OS X.
QUOTE Thanks
Aptmunich

 
Aptmunich's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 09, 2004
Location: Munich
Posts: 9,075
Aptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant future
Mac Specs: Aluminium Macbook 2.4 Ghz 4GB RAM, SSD 24" Samsung Display, iPhone 4, iPad 2

Aptmunich is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by chscag View Post
A virtual machine running what? You can not run OS X as a VM from OS X.
Actually you can run OS X Server in a VM, the only restriction is that the VM has to be running on Apple hardware.

Regarding the OP: your suggestion might protect you against certain malicious attacks, but if OS X were to be that badly compromised, there's no guaranteeing how well the access controls would prevent someone from getting at your stuff.

Other suggestion: just make sure your really sensitive information is protected. Use an encrypted 1Password database or encrypted .dmg file to store your really important information and documents?
QUOTE Thanks
Tomel

 
Member Since: Apr 19, 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 35
Tomel is on a distinguished road
Mac Specs: Early 2011 MBP i5 2.3GHz 13" 8Gb Ram 120Gb SSD

Tomel is offline
I'll try to answer the question posed by the OP. Although I'm new to the Mac world, I do not believe his suggested solution will work.

Based on what I've read and my own limited experience, anytime you try to install software from any account other than the main "Administrator's" account, you must enter the administrator's account name and password. Accordingly, the installation process is the same whether you have a "new" standard account or are using your main administrator's account. Isn't this correct? If so, then opening a new account to install software actually accomplishes nothing in terms of protecting the system from malware.
QUOTE Thanks
Aptmunich

 
Aptmunich's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 09, 2004
Location: Munich
Posts: 9,075
Aptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant futureAptmunich has a brilliant future
Mac Specs: Aluminium Macbook 2.4 Ghz 4GB RAM, SSD 24" Samsung Display, iPhone 4, iPad 2

Aptmunich is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomel View Post
I'll try to answer the question posed by the OP. Although I'm new to the Mac world, I do not believe his suggested solution will work.

Based on what I've read and my own limited experience, anytime you try to install software from any account other than the main "Administrator's" account, you must enter the administrator's account name and password. Accordingly, the installation process is the same whether you have a "new" standard account or are using your main administrator's account. Isn't this correct? If so, then opening a new account to install software actually accomplishes nothing in terms of protecting the system from malware.
That depends on the software you're trying to install.
If it's just a .dmg file with an application inside, you can drop that application into any of the user folders and run it just fine.

What you won't be able to do is drag it to the "Applications" folder, as that lives under /Macintosh HD/Applications, which is not restricted to just that user.

An application installer usually places the app into that apps folder, which is why you'd be prompted for the admin password...
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« I think my computer has been hacked, I am locked out of my files, Please Help | What are the grayed out files in Snow Leopard? »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
moving "profile"/content from admin to user account marttram OS X - Operating System 3 05-22-2010 04:46 AM
Im in Login **** Guest account has assumed my identiity Experts Please Read robertgarven OS X - Operating System 0 12-27-2008 05:57 PM
Missing user account after joining domain fruvos OS X - Operating System 3 06-18-2008 07:09 PM
Dock MrsRed Switcher Hangout 18 09-17-2007 10:15 AM
Administration Account vs Regular Account ? gin8u OS X - Operating System 13 04-09-2007 07:54 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?