Help: Upgrading 10.3.9 to Leopard

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #1 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 02:03 PM

Hi all, I hope you can help me with this...

I have a G4 (2 GB Ram, 8XX Ghz powerPC processor) that has 10.3.9 installed.
I have purchased a retail copy of Leopard to try to upgrade the system. When I insert the disk and click "Install" the machine reboots and continues spinning without chiming....just a blank screen.

I tried repacing the PRAM Battery..No luck
I tried installing the DVDF from the second DVD...no luck
My local store tried to install from an external firewire DVD...no luck

The Machine meets the specs (lots of HD available), but I'm at a loss.

Any advice would be great
RB

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #2 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 02:05 PM

Sorry, Snow Leopard is for an Intel CPU only. They totally did away with support for any Power PC CPU in Snow Leopard. Best you can do is purchase 10.5 Leopard. Sorry

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #3 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 02:32 PM

Sorry,

My error. I am trying to upgrade to Leopard. My copy of Leopard won't install.

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #4 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 02:35 PM

Ok, glad you cleared that up!

If you put the 10.5 DVD into the drive and boot with C held down, what happens? Also have you tried holding down option at startup after the Startup sound? Does the DVD show? What happens when you click on it?

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #5 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 03:33 PM

When I hold C, the DVD drive makes a lot of noise...spinning accessing etc for about 4 min. then nothing....

When I hold Option after the Chime...nothing happens. No noticable spinning or click-whir sounds. Blank screen.

RB

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #6 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 06:13 PM

G'day and welcome to the forums.

Well you said 8xx. It has to be an 867MHz processor or higher and will not boot on say an 800MHz machine. Otherwise sounds like you drive has had it. It is a DVD drive, such as a superdrive or combo, and not a CD only drive?

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #7 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 07:52 PM

Hi,

Yes, it's an 867 Mhz. I have 2 Superdrives in it, both DVD drives. Same symptoms in both drives.

RB

chscag · chscag #8 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 09:08 PM

If it does the same thing in both drives, I would suspect that the DVD itself might be bad. Did you look it over real close to see if there are any scratches or imperfections?

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #9 (**permalink**)

05-12-2011, 11:22 PM

Describe the DVD as sometimes sellers market upgrade or system discs as retail. It should be black and not silver/grey.

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #10 (**permalink**)

05-13-2011, 06:48 AM

Behind the shiny silver case, both are black. I checked the specs and they are listed as :ATA 3 Bus - Pioneer DVD RW DVR-104.
I tried a firmware / Driver update for these and have not found anything newer than my installed version.

As I mentioned in a previous post, my local Mac store tried to install the OS from an external firewire dvd with the same results.

lifeisabeach · lifeisabeach #11 (**permalink**)

05-13-2011, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrouwer

Behind the shiny silver case, both are black. I checked the specs and they are listed as :ATA 3 Bus - Pioneer DVD RW DVR-104.
I tried a firmware / Driver update for these and have not found anything newer than my installed version.

As I mentioned in a previous post, my local Mac store tried to install the OS from an external firewire dvd with the same results.

Are you able to do anything with those DVD drives? Watch a DVD movie? Browse files on a DVD? Can you boot from your own original install DVD?

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #12 (**permalink**)

05-13-2011, 06:13 PM

My bad. Meant describe the DVD install discs.

rbrouwer · rbrouwer #13 (**permalink**)

05-14-2011, 08:00 AM

Ahh.. The install disks are genuine Retail MAc OS X disks. I've tried the one I purchased (at the Apple Store in Toronto) and when it didn't work, I borrowed a friend's disk (thinking my disks might be bad) and I got the exact same result.

The DVD drives play movies, and data disks. When I pop the install disk into either drive, the OS X install window shows up as it should.

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #14 (**permalink**)

05-14-2011, 08:18 AM

That is crazy.

You are sure that is an 867 Mhz G4 CPU? If so it should install. I tried my 5 license 10.5 DVD on a 733 Quicksilver and I believe it said it could not install on this machine.

I am starting to think there is something wrong with the PowerMac itself. What OS is on the machine right now? Do you have the install DVD/CD for the current OS you can try? Does it work?

pigoo3 · pigoo3 #15 (**permalink**)

05-14-2011, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrouwer

Ahh.. The install disks are genuine Retail MAc OS X disks. I've tried the one I purchased (at the Apple Store in Toronto) and when it didn't work, I borrowed a friend's disk (thinking my disks might be bad) and I got the exact same result.

Two things:

- What color is this install disk and/or what does it look like (is there a image/photo of a cat of some sort on it)?
- If you bought this OS 10.5 Leopard install disk fairly recently...I'm pretty sure you didn't buy it from the Toronto Apple Store...since Apple stopped selling 10.5 install disks in the stores about 1.5 years ago.

- Nick

rbrouwer #1 (permalink)
Member Since: May 12, 2011 Posts: 10	05-12-2011, 02:03 PM Hi all, I hope you can help me with this... I have a G4 (2 GB Ram, 8XX Ghz powerPC processor) that has 10.3.9 installed. I have purchased a retail copy of Leopard to try to upgrade the system. When I insert the disk and click "Install" the machine reboots and continues spinning without chiming....just a blank screen. I tried repacing the PRAM Battery..No luck I tried installing the DVDF from the second DVD...no luck My local store tried to install from an external firewire DVD...no luck The Machine meets the specs (lots of HD available), but I'm at a loss. Any advice would be great RB Last edited by rbrouwer; 05-12-2011 at 02:30 PM.
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dtravis7 #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,771 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-12-2011, 02:05 PM Sorry, Snow Leopard is for an Intel CPU only. They totally did away with support for any Power PC CPU in Snow Leopard. Best you can do is purchase 10.5 Leopard. Sorry ...Dennis Mac-Forums Community Guidelines
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dtravis7 #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,771 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-12-2011, 02:35 PM Ok, glad you cleared that up! If you put the 10.5 DVD into the drive and boot with C held down, what happens? Also have you tried holding down option at startup after the Startup sound? Does the DVD show? What happens when you click on it? ...Dennis Mac-Forums Community Guidelines
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harryb2448 #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,058 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	05-12-2011, 06:13 PM G'day and welcome to the forums. Well you said 8xx. It has to be an 867MHz processor or higher and will not boot on say an 800MHz machine. Otherwise sounds like you drive has had it. It is a DVD drive, such as a superdrive or combo, and not a CD only drive? *Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!*
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Member Since: Jan 23, 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 31,968 Mac Specs: 21.5" iMac 2.5 GHz i5, iPad 3rd Gen., 3 iPods	05-12-2011, 09:08 PM If it does the same thing in both drives, I would suspect that the DVD itself might be bad. Did you look it over real close to see if there are any scratches or imperfections? Community Guidelines
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rbrouwer #5 (permalink)
Member Since: May 12, 2011 Posts: 10	05-12-2011, 03:33 PM When I hold C, the DVD drive makes a lot of noise...spinning accessing etc for about 4 min. then nothing.... When I hold Option after the Chime...nothing happens. No noticable spinning or click-whir sounds. Blank screen. RB
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rbrouwer #7 (permalink)
Member Since: May 12, 2011 Posts: 10	05-12-2011, 07:52 PM Hi, Yes, it's an 867 Mhz. I have 2 Superdrives in it, both DVD drives. Same symptoms in both drives. RB
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harryb2448 #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,058 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	05-12-2011, 11:22 PM Describe the DVD as sometimes sellers market upgrade or system discs as retail. It should be black and not silver/grey. *Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!*
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rbrouwer #10 (permalink)
Member Since: May 12, 2011 Posts: 10	05-13-2011, 06:48 AM Behind the shiny silver case, both are black. I checked the specs and they are listed as :ATA 3 Bus - Pioneer DVD RW DVR-104. I tried a firmware / Driver update for these and have not found anything newer than my installed version. As I mentioned in a previous post, my local Mac store tried to install the OS from an external firewire dvd with the same results.
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harryb2448 #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,058 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	05-13-2011, 06:13 PM My bad. Meant describe the DVD install discs. *Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!*
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rbrouwer #13 (permalink)
Member Since: May 12, 2011 Posts: 10	05-14-2011, 08:00 AM Ahh.. The install disks are genuine Retail MAc OS X disks. I've tried the one I purchased (at the Apple Store in Toronto) and when it didn't work, I borrowed a friend's disk (thinking my disks might be bad) and I got the exact same result. The DVD drives play movies, and data disks. When I pop the install disk into either drive, the OS X install window shows up as it should.
	QUOTE Thanks

dtravis7 #14 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,771 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-14-2011, 08:18 AM That is crazy. You are sure that is an 867 Mhz G4 CPU? If so it should install. I tried my 5 license 10.5 DVD on a 733 Quicksilver and I believe it said it could not install on this machine. I am starting to think there is something wrong with the PowerMac itself. What OS is on the machine right now? Do you have the install DVD/CD for the current OS you can try? Does it work? ...Dennis Mac-Forums Community Guidelines
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