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  1. #1

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    Mar 12, 2011
    Installing Mac OS X 10.5.8 problems
    I am having trouble installing a standard software update

    I am currently at Mac OS X: Version 10.5.2

    I need to upgrade at least Version 10.5.7 or higher for various projects I need to work on.

    I have tried updating simply from the "About this Mac" screen button which restarts the computer and says that "the installation cannot be preformed, to contact the manufacturer."

    I called Apple and the CSR said to download from the update Apple/support forum as a means of troubleshooting but during the installation it marks my HD with a red exclamation mark and says that the volume is insufficient to perform the update.

    I've never had any problem installing an update before and I really need this software upgrade to continue with work. Please advise on any suggestions! Thank you!

    Here is the information on my Mac Mini:

    Model Name: Mac mini
    Model Identifier: Macmini2,1
    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
    Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 1
    Total Number Of Cores: 2
    L2 Cache: 2 MB
    Memory: 1 GB
    Bus Speed: 667 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: MM21.009A.B00
    SMC Version: 1.19f2
    Serial Number: YM815126YL1

  2. #2

    Member Since
    Dec 11, 2010
    Quote Originally Posted by somnambulating View Post
    ...says that the volume is insufficient to perform the update.
    You need to tell us how much disk drive space you have.

  3. #3

    Member Since
    Mar 12, 2011
    Currently it says I have 5.62 GB available. If I were to restart the computer it would probably say something closer to 6GB of free space.

    If I remember correctly, the install requires something around 700mb so I would think this is more than enough space to simply update my software?

  4. #4

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    Jul 02, 2006
    Crawley, England
    20" Intel iMac 2.4 Ghz/3G Ram/320HD, Snow Leopard. PBook G4, 1.5Ghz/1.5 Ram/250 HD, Leopard 10.5.6.
    I assume, from your first post, that you have downloaded the 10.5.8 combo update from Apple, and this is what won't install?
    First thing to do, IMO, is to get your install disc, and run disk utility from the file menu. Verify your permissions and check your HDD out too. See if that throws any errors up and repair anything necessary.
    After that I would then try running software update, which really should bring you up to 10.5.8 without using the combo updater you downloaded.
    I know others prefer to do their updates that way, but I have only ever suffered one issue using software update.
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    Dec 22, 2006
    Texas, where else?
    15" MBP '06 2.33 C2D 4GB 10.7; 13" MBA '11 1.8 i7 4GB 10.10; 21" iMac '13 2.9 i5 8GB 10.10; 5s & 5c
    I would say it's highly unlikely that you're going to get that size update to install on a drive that's been in use for, what - going on 5 years now and has less than 5% free space and that free space is fragmented all to....

    I'm even more surprised you haven't been somewhere asking "Why is my Mac running so slow?".

    You seriously need to upgrade your drive or find a way to dump about 30% of the data that's on it to an external drive.

    And you do have a backup, right? On a 5 year old drive?
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    Member Since
    Sep 09, 2009
    Down Under :D
    Back to my old 2.2GHz C2D MB after selling my MBP and wondering what my next Mac will be :)
    Some things I just don't get, and this is one of them!
    Kind of like running on empty while driving, but still keep ignoring the low fuel warning light while driving past service stations hoping for the best
    Please take bobtomay's advise ASAP.

  7. #7

    Member Since
    Mar 12, 2011
    Well, I've freed it up to about 8GB of free space and it still won't install the update so, my next question is, to what amount would you folks suggest freeing-up space on this hard drive?

    I have a few externals and believe me, if I could just drag over every last bit of data to the external drives I would but I work with a lot of media files as a filmmaker and that's just not going to be able to happen. As for upgrading my drive, I bought this mac in 2008 and if I need to upgrade to do the very straightforward work that I do, I'd just as soon buy a new mac. So, any further help would be much appreciated as I've deadlines to meet so's I can have food in the fridge: how many GB do I need in total to perform a simple update on a computer which is a couple of years old (every bit of data I have to free up is detrimental in other facets of my work and I do it grudgingly) so, if I could have the minimum suggestion that would rectify everything 100%


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    Member Since
    Jan 31, 2011
    How big is the hard drive?

  9. #9

    Member Since
    Mar 12, 2011
    75 GB in total on a Mac Mini purchased in 2008. As I've mentioned before, it's important for me to retain as much of the data stored as possible.

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    Jan 23, 2008
    Fort Worth, Texas
    27" iMac i5, 3.2 GHz, iPad 3, iPhone 5c, iPhone 6+, 3 iPods, El Capitan
    As for upgrading my drive, I bought this mac in 2008 and if I need to upgrade to do the very straightforward work that I do, I'd just as soon buy a new mac.
    As a professional film maker you should be concerned with using the best possible tools to get the job done. If you continue to limit yourself then putting "food in the fridge" is going to be more difficult. I realize you're trying to be frugal but being overly frugal has negative results.

    The bottom line: Either purchase and install a larger faster hard drive, or as you say above, buy a new Mac.

    Step by step instructions for installing a new hard drive in the Mini can be found at iFixit: The free repair manual.

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    Oct 19, 2008
    2012 13" MBP (2.5 i5, 8GB)
    Have you tried doing the updates one at a time: 10.5.2 - 10.5.3, 10.5.3 - 10.5.4, etc.? It's time consuming but it may work.

    In terms of free space, you should be trying to go for 15% or so. If you have an 80GB disk, you should be aiming for about 12GB. Is it not possible to move some of that content to externals that you keep plugged in?
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    Nov 28, 2007
    Nambucca Heads Australia
    iMac i5 2.7GHz, 16GB memory, OS 10.11
    You do need some 15% free space on the hard drive just for it to work anywhere near peak efficiency as vansmith advised. You do need to install a larger hard drive in the Mini, say 250GB at least.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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