07-08-2010, 02:11 AM

This is the best I could find so far.

YouTube - Spaces Demo - Mac OSX 10.5.2 - 2.6Ghz Macbook Pro

This is the one I sent my mother interstate, and have also linked a few people to.
I still believe that there could one which is more like the video tutorials on the Apple site - being more concise and organised, but I can't find it.

Can anyone better this?
It would be much appreciated

07-08-2010, 03:07 AM

The best one is likely the one you will make. Hop to it !

I'll look around though.

Doug

Yeah, I just watched that guy's Youtube tutorial, and while it's ok, it's only that. Very basic stuff. You need to find something that gets into setting up specific apps for specific spaces, as well as using keyboard shortcuts as well as mouse gestures in conjunction with exposé etc..

So this is for your mom ? Is she tech savvy ? Because you have to remember that she may not care too much about this stuff. I tried to get my wife to use exposé and spaces for more efficiency, and she was just like... "Uugh.. . I don't want to do it this way, just let me drudge through one work space and I'll be fine". It baffled me to no end, but it's her prerogative I guess.

Doug

07-08-2010, 07:23 AM

Yeah, my first question is "why are you trying to make your mom use Spaces?"

07-08-2010, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Doug b

The best one is likely the one you will make. Hop to it !

I'll look around though.

Doug

Yeah, I just watched that guy's Youtube tutorial, and while it's ok, it's only that. Very basic stuff. You need to find something that gets into setting up specific apps for specific spaces, as well as using keyboard shortcuts as well as mouse gestures in conjunction with exposé etc..

So this is for your mom ? Is she tech savvy ? Because you have to remember that she may not care too much about this stuff. I tried to get my wife to use exposé and spaces for more efficiency, and she was just like... "Uugh.. . I don't want to do it this way, just let me drudge through one work space and I'll be fine". It baffled me to no end, but it's her prerogative I guess.

Doug

Originally Posted by chas_m

Yeah, my first question is "why are you trying to make your mom use Spaces?"

hehe

If you only saw the state her disorganised mess of a desktop.
I can't train her to close apps, delete trash, stop filling her screen with icons, repair permissions, and the list goes on.
I wrote her a point by point chart of how to keep her Mac organised and humming along, and she lost the list LOL
Expose/hot corners sends her into a flurry when her mouse pointer hits the corners accidentally.
To combat the numerous open app situation, I maxed out her RAM, which has taken care of that part of having a million apps running, which just leaves the mess.
I showed her how spaces works, and she showed real interest in it.
Looks to her like something she would like to use.
Funny enough, my mum can use her messy work space, it is only that when I visit her, that I am the one drudging through her workspace ripping my hair out

Other than helping mum, and others with it, it is also something I would like to be way more proficient in.

MASTER OF SPACES

07-08-2010, 09:26 AM

Hey that video was awesome

I didn't know about spaces, also I didn't know if you squeezed on the sides of the mouse ... it is a shortcut to expose !! Is that how it is set by default ?

I have the magic mouse I think it is called ! you know the one that comes with the new iMacs.

Thanks

07-08-2010, 09:33 AM

Spaces is brilliant.... and up until I gave it a closer looking at recently, I've only been using expose, more so, hot corners.
I think there are a plethora of Mac users out there who don't know about spaces.

When you have your mighty mouse connected, it will be in your system preferences>mouse settings.
If you type in "Using a Mighty Mouse" in menu bar help, it will tell you all about it the shortcut and more.

07-08-2010, 09:45 AM

Cool Thank You

Will check it out when I get back home. I'm currently at work.

Thanks

07-08-2010, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by 6string

hehe

If you only saw the state her disorganised mess of a desktop.
I can't train her to close apps, delete trash, stop filling her screen with icons, repair permissions, and the list goes on.
I wrote her a point by point chart of how to keep her Mac organised and humming along, and she lost the list LOL
Expose/hot corners sends her into a flurry when her mouse pointer hits the corners accidentally.
To combat the numerous open app situation, I maxed out her RAM, which has taken care of that part of having a million apps running, which just leaves the mess.
I showed her how spaces works, and she showed real interest in it.
Looks to her like something she would like to use.
Funny enough, my mum can use her messy work space, it is only that when I visit her, that I am the one drudging through her workspace ripping my hair out

Other than helping mum, and others with it, it is also something I would like to be way more proficient in.

MASTER OF SPACES

Haha... Mate, I'm so very well aware of your mom's type. I've my fair share of them in my family as well. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, I tried sorting out my cousin's extremely disgraceful mess of a desktop and finder. Talk about no organization... But in the end, it wound up being a futile gesture and here's why: It's just a matter of what a person is comfortable with.

I can't believe it but, some people actually work more efficiently in a cluttered environment. Not because it's cluttered, but because they've trained themselves to know where to look in what you and I consider a clutter. To them, it's actually organized ! I can sort of relate to this mentality with certain things in life... Like say, with the way I organize my digital photos.

I've had some very insecure people try and push their own work flow habits on me, saying that what I was doing was not only unnecessary, but dead on wrong ! When in reality, there really is no right or wrong in such a situation. I use Lightroom for photo cataloging and editing, but I don't rely solely on LR for organization for my own idiosyncratic reasons. No one can tell me that I'm wrong to do things which make the most sense to me...

We can try and help our friends and family with things like organization, but I personally feel that unless they're actually LOOKING for help, that there's very little reason to try and change their habits.

Has your mom asked for help in this case ?

That said, I do love spaces and Esposé. You don't even need a mighty mouse for certain functionality. I've assigned my middle click mouse button to show all desktops, and from there, I can use the same middle mouse button to scroll to a space above, below or to the side. (my middle click button rocks left to right). I also have my left top hot corner set up to show all spaces too, but the middle click is a lot faster and more convenient.

There are many ways to skin the OS X Cat...

Doug





Doug

07-08-2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Doug b

Haha... Mate, I'm so very well aware of your mom's type. I've my fair share of them in my family as well. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, I tried sorting out my cousin's extremely disgraceful mess of a desktop and finder. Talk about no organization... But in the end, it wound up being a futile gesture and here's why: It's just a matter of what a person is comfortable with.


We can try and help our friends and family with things like organization, but I personally feel that unless they're actually LOOKING for help, that there's very little reason to try and change their habits.

Has your mom asked for help in this case ?

Doug

She's never asked for help, but every time I visit, I ask how her Mac's running, and then she tells me it's lagging, freezing, etc. LOL

Then I sit at it, clean up her mess into an organised version of her disorganised system.... such as grouping the desktop clutter into folders on the desktop, closing Apps that she had no idea were open, moving applications that she has in her documents folder for some reason back to her apps folder, deleting the 100's of disk images that she has all over the place after installing apps that she never uses, this list goes on.

The one that always gets me is her dock, which usually has at least 10apps open, which she tells me that 5 or so of which, she hasn't today, and she doesn't know why they are open. hehe

I also remind her that she has OnyX and how to use the automation tab

The good news is that she is learning how to empty the trash occasionally.

Bless her soul, I'm just glad it's not a PC, as I remember her being in constant contact with the PC tech, waiting for him to come over and get her system up and running again.
Now at least, over the phone, I can help her get things up and running again.
Be easier if she used time machine and CCC which I bought her an external HD and partitioned to use for both , naming one partition Mum's time machine backups, and the other Mum's Carbon Copy Backups, and showed her how to use it which she understood. Still, forgets to use it

You can only help those who want to help themselves, even if they know they need help.
I suspect that they know people like us are there when things really go astray.

I must admit, that I have my own areas of disorganised organisation that work for me, so I do totally understand it.


PS: Let's not forget that this thread is to help me find the best spaces video tutorial

Regards
Kane