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    Angry No further OS X.4 Tiger support
    What a downer this is and here is a link to this story:-

    Apple ends support for Tiger systems, no clear PowerPC upgrade path remains | 9 to 5 Mac


    More and more of this planned obsolescence?

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    Nothing new. We knew Apple would discontinue support for 10.4 once 10.6 came out. We knew 10.6 would be Intel-only.

    For those of you whose crystal balls are still cloudy, support for 10.5 will be dropped when (and if) 10.7 comes out. And support for 10.6 will be dropped when (and if) 10.8 comes out.

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    Tech, you say When and If on 10.7 and above. You know something you are not saying? Like Google Chrome OS except OSX all on the net?

    The announcement by Google yesterday was dead on to what I knew Chrome OS was going to be. I sure hope Apple is not planning the same road to all your data on the net.

    On 10.4 Tiger. There was one last update not long ago and I was pretty sure that would be it. They always seem to support 2 versions like Tech said, current and last version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    The announcement by Google yesterday was dead on to what I knew Chrome OS was going to be. I sure hope Apple is not planning the same road to all your data on the net.
    I agree. At that point I would be open to switching to another computing platform.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baggss View Post
    I agree. At that point I would be open to switching to another computing platform.
    Sadly likewise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    More and more of this planned obsolescence?
    I seriously dislike it when people use the term "planned obsolescence".
    They make it sound like it's some sort of grand conspiracy against consumers.
    Manufacturers don't release something while being fully aware that the upgrade is already scheduled for a certain time.

    This happened not because the OS writers "planned" it that way, but rather it's simply because technology is an ever advancing field.
    That's just the way it goes.
    The more advancements there are, the more difficult it is to maintain legacy software and systems.
    You can't put a band-aid on something to make it work just like the new stuff all the time.
    You can't continue to fully back an OS that has reached its peak and has already had two successors.
    Eventually, legacy support must be dropped.

    Most operating systems were good for about 4-5 years maximum.
    OS X 10.4 was released on April 29, 2005... over 4.5 years ago.
    Its time has come to an end.

    The faster technology advances, the shorter that time frame becomes.

    If one day technological advancement suddenly screeched to a halt... would consumers be happy?
    No, of course not.
    They would demand more and more.
    Would it help if technology simply "slowed down" a bit?
    No, of course not.
    The consumer is an insatiable beast and would demand faster updates.


    However, so long as the older systems still provide their users with the same reliability and functionality they did on day one, they are not obsolete.
    I still have a single-processor 1.6 Ghz Power Mac G5 running 10.4.11 Tiger.
    It still does exactly what I need it to.
    Yes, it's older... but it is far from being obsolete.

    If the day ever came that my current setup couldn't successfully perform for me... I would get a newer computer.
    Until that day, my system and OS are not obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    Tech, you say When and If on 10.7 and above. You know something you are not saying? Like Google Chrome OS except OSX all on the net?

    The announcement by Google yesterday was dead on to what I knew Chrome OS was going to be. I sure hope Apple is not planning the same road to all your data on the net.
    Not to get off-topic, but I think Chromium OS is exactly the kind of OS an always-on, always connected netbook platform needs. Think of it like a bridge between a smartphone and a standard notebook. I don't see Apple going down that path, as they have always catered to the high-end of the market - at least not with the Mac line. If anything, the rumored tablet would function more in that niche. And again, Chromium OS is a niche product. It's not looking to replace full on PCs (and I use the PC in the general sense, not the mainstream sense), nor will it ever.

    But for the on-the-go, always connected business traveler, for whom a Smartphone isn't enough for crunching spreadsheets or working on large documents, this style of OS may be a good fit.
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    On the Apple going NET PC I did say HOPE they don't.

    From all the info I have read Google is not going to stop with netbooks. That is the first step of their plan.

    I can see your point on a device for some users and uses.

    As far as Tiger support, Apple is doing nothing different. They support the current and the version before. You can't expect them to support Tiger forever. Same was done with Panther, Jaguar, Puma before. Microsoft pulls support after a time on their older OS's also. Apple is doing nothing different with this. I just wish it was easier to get 10.5 Leopard for the older Macs that are running tiger still.

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