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Hi everyone,

Some of you may have seen my posts before about my problematic mac pro and I have tried to fix it but unfortunately had no luck.

Basically after it running really slow, crashing on the smallest of tasks (sending and email and then opening spaces to go to a new window to use word for example) the whole thing would freeze, fans go full pelt as if to take off and i have to turn it off. I then have to wait 5/10 minutes before it can turn it on again otherwise it wouldn't boot up.

So I thought it was hardware or a bad install of OSX or similar to bought a new HDD and did a fresh install on OSX with snow leaopard this time, put all my software back on and today it started to crash again. For example, i opened a new tab in safari and the whole machine crashed like above.

So i presume its a hardware problem, over heating? PSU problem? Any thoughts of what I can do? Or ill just bin it and use my old mac book which has survived 5 years with no problems.

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If you have the original discs it came with (the gray system locked discs) you could always attempt to do a hardware test with it and see if it can determine the problem - of course getting replacement parts may be difficult - you'd probably have to scour ebay to find them if you didn't want to pay a fortune to get them brand new. Other than that, if it's by any chance still under apple care (assuming you got it) I'd say just bring it in for repair.

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did a fresh install on OSX with snow leaopard this time, put all my software back on and today it started to crash again.
I would still say it's a software issue.
What applications are you installing?

I normally wouldn't suggest this, but I advise a full OS reinstall... using your original OS discs, not the Snow Leopard discs.

When the OS is installed, before you install any other software, be sure to get all of the OS updates from Software Update.

If everything is fine up to this point, then install your other applications one by one... testing things out between each install.

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applications: adobe master suite, m-beat, quicksilver, macjanitor, office, iwork, ilife, onyx, dvdpedia, cyberduck, appzapper

Called apple - they seem to think its hardware. I cant find my original tiger disk anywhere - any other way I can do a hardware test?

I could do that devilboy but the crashes are random, unless I install them one a day and try that? I have all the same software on my macbook and that doesn't crash?

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I could do that devilboy but the crashes are random, unless I install them one a day and try that? I have all the same software on my macbook and that doesn't crash?

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I would try what "D3v1L80Y" suggests. Reinstalling the OS really is not that big of a deal...just make sure that all of your important files are backed up.

If an OS reinstall fixes everything, great!

If you are still sort of concerned about doing a fresh OS install. Buy yourself a relatively cheap 80 or 160 gig internal hard drive (like $40 bucks here in the States, or buy a used one for even less)...and do a fresh OS install on it. Then boot the computer from that new drive with the fresh OS on it.

At least with a fresh install of the OS, you can eliminate the OS as a potential problem area. If the fresh OS install works, then AWESOME, problem solved!

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I think the big problem here is understanding the "fresh install" - the op had done that with a new HD, but then proceeded to install all of his other software - for the responders are suggesting, do a fresh install but DON'T install all of your other software to make sure the OS is stable.

also - to the OP - I don't think I'd be using Onyx just yet on SL - it's still in beta, and as you're having problems, it'd be best to stay away from anything that has any hint of incompatibility...

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The new install I have just done is on a new 1.5tb seagate HDD. I have 3 other HDDs in the mac - i do notice however that there are no jumpers on any of these. does this make a difference?

Also, I just had a different type of OSX crash, i went to open a new tab in safari and the screen turned black. Computer still on, just a black screen of nothing?
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Are you sure you can't find that OSX DVD that came with the machine? Running the Apple Hardware Test and also what DB suggested are good ways to find out just what is wrong.

That last crash though is interesting. Wonder if it's a Video Card issue?

The Apple Hardware Test comes with a new Mac and is usually on the first install DVD. That is why it's so important to keep that DVD at all costs. Really comes in handy for times like this. You can probably get one from Apple. Give them a call and tell them your model of the Mac Pro and tell them you lost your install DVD.
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I originally thought it was a video card problem, as i first started having problems with the OSX crashing whilst playing COD and the graphics would get really laggy then crash

Is there any other software I can use to do the tests?

Also, if it is software, how comes my macbook has been fine? As its the same software on both?

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Crashed a few times recently. Its very random. Here is the crash report. Does it make sense to anyone:

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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 1064743 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: E04B424A-DFD5-47F5-A4D4-F192919AF560

Fri Dec 25 08:38:11 2009
Machine-check capabilities (cpu 2) 0x0000000000000006:
family: 6 model: 15 stepping: 6 microcode: 198
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5150 @ 2.66GHz
6 error-reporting banks
Machine-check status 0x0000000000000005:
restart IP valid
machine-check in progress
MCA error-reporting registers:
IA32_MC0_STATUS(0x401): 0xb200004000000800 valid
MCA error code: 0x0800
Model specific error code: 0x0000
Other information: 0x00000040
Status bits:
Processor context corrupt
Error enabled
Uncorrected error
IA32_MC1_STATUS(0x405): 0x0000000000000000 invalid
IA32_MC2_STATUS(0x409): 0x0000000000000000 invalid
IA32_MC3_STATUS(0x40d): 0x0020000000000000 invalid
IA32_MC4_STATUS(0x411): 0x0000000000000011 invalid
IA32_MC5_STATUS(0x415): 0xb200221024080400 valid
MCA error code: 0x0400
Model specific error code: 0x2408
Other information: 0x00002210
Status bits:
Processor context corrupt
Error enabled
Uncorrected error
panic(cpu 2 caller 0x2a6c94): Machine Check at 0x00cb65f0, thread:0x852c000, trapno:0x12, err:0x0,registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x00f82868, CR3: 0x00100000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x07859240, ECX: 0x00000001, EDX: 0x00000000
ESP: 0x5d963b70, EBP: 0x5d963b98, ESI: 0x0790a000, EDI: 0x00cc0aa8
EFL: 0x00000002, EIP: 0x00cb65f0

Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x56800fb8 : 0x21b2bd (0x5cf868 0x56800fec 0x223719 0x0)
0x56801008 : 0x2a6c94 (0x5918f8 0x5919e5 0xcb65f0 0x852c000)
0x568010f8 : 0x29e8d2 (0x1 0x65646976 0x616c4372 0x2f3c7373)
0x5d963b98 : 0xcaeca4 (0x5675d0a4 0x1 0x790a000 0x0)
0x5d963c78 : 0xcb04db (0xad1fb10a 0x80005521 0x0 0x0)
0x5d963d48 : 0x2a8a3c (0xffffffff 0x7fffffff 0x5d963d88 0x56766000)
0x5d963d68 : 0x225527 (0x5676649c 0xad1fafbd 0x5521 0x56766488)
0x5d963dc8 : 0x2262fd (0x1 0x852c000 0x793b4b0 0x2311d9)
0x5d963e38 : 0x226f11 (0x852c01c 0x5521 0x5d963e58 0xffffffff)
0x5d963ea8 : 0x226fb5 (0x210aa3 0x0 0x0 0x852c000)
0x5d963ec8 : 0x211910 (0x210aa3 0x3000102 0x8000 0x12c)
0x5d963ef8 : 0x216b92 (0x7be117c 0x3000102 0x8000 0x12c)
0x5d963f78 : 0x292834 (0x83ab448 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x5d963fc8 : 0x29e44d (0x83ab444 0x1 0x10 0x9345b80)
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(96.0 .0)@0xcad000->0xcc7fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

Mac OS version:
10C540

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.2.0: Tue Nov 3 10:37:10 PST 2009; root:xnu-1486.2.11~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacPro1,1 (Mac-F4208DC8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 93603129045543
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.6 (addr 0x5d94c000, size 0x53248) - last unloaded 78776195726428
loaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.MaxTranserSizeOverrideDriver 2.5.1 - last loaded 78278050871043
com.apple.filesystems.udf 2.1
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.1.0
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com.apple.ATIRadeonX1000 6.0.6
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.1.2
com.apple.driver.AppleMCEDriver 1.1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelMeromProfile 19
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 4.0.1d0
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com.apple.BootCache 31
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com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClien t 96.0.0
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com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction 10
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com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.0
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Wanting to bring this thread up again. Tried a fresh install and its still happening. For example i put a USB key into the front of the mac and i get a black screen. or i watch a youtube video and i get a white screen.

I did notice that after it crashes, and i try to start up, a red light appears on the GFX card. Only when the red light doesn;t come on, does the mac boot up?

New GFX card maybe?
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