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ok, so you might have read about my previous problem... well it's nothing compare to what is happening now.
i am currently typing from a pc laptop >_<
BASICALLY, a little basic operation of moving a LARGE amount of files went wrong and instead of getting them from the trash to a folder on the desktop, they ended up landing on the desktop itself...
so it took like half an hour or more for all of them to finally appear.
i started deleted them piece by piece (since there were maybe 4000 or so of them) and everything was going ALRIGHT when i selected more than i should have and pressed: move to trash.
the trash was preparing to move some 1000 files when it pretty much froze.
so i restarted... to find myself in deep shiiiiit. the desktop itmes won't load at all.
the upper taskbar loads, i can connect to internet and launch messengers, but safari is already too much for it too handle. the little umbrella keeps turning and that's all i get. i cannot launch finder, but i can launch photoshop and when trying to open a file i SEE all those desktop items.
the dock loads too.
my god. i have just backed everything up, thank god, but i am seriously not looking forward to reinstalling all my programmes and stuff.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO INTERFERE IN THAT DESKTOP LOADING PROCESS?

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command+shift+U will open the utilities folder, open activity monitor if you can, look for emptying of the trash or moving of files and quit that process.
also, try booting into safe boot mode by holding shift during startup so it won't try to load that stuff.
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tried the safe mode, didn't change anything.
it's not the emptying the trash bit that's getting it to freeze anymore.
the trash IS empty.
it's everytime i reboot it tries to load all of those files (they are font files btw) onto the desktop.
and obviously fails.
when i try opening the activity monitor - that fails too.
please tell me i can fix it without reseting the entire system
i'm afraid i've ran out of options.
can't believe a silly thing like that has me resetting the entire system!!!! wtf
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can you create another user with admin rights? You could then login as him and delete the files. Alternatively if you can get remote login active you could login as the user using SSH and delete the files via command line.

Yet another option is booting from CD or FW drive if you have one handy.
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omg. ok, you may have to reinstall, I didnt realize they were fonts, if theyre on the desktop, they are still active, which means font book is trying to open/activate them ALL on startup while loading system fonts. if you leave it alone for a while, see if it finishes loading, if it ever does, open font book, and deactivate them all, then delete them, then restarting shouldn't be a problem. you should have the items on your desktop arranged by name, if so, after everything finishes loading if it ever will, just hit command+A to select all, then hold shift and click/deselect what you dont want to delete, then move to trash and empty it.
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i can try that but i doubt it'd change ANYTHING since the loading of files seems to be blocking my every second move.
what do you think about going on a fireweire mode? and trying to delete the files from another computer?
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what do you think about going on a fireweire mode? and trying to delete the files from another computer?
That might work if you have a second mac you can mount it on. I would not suggest opening your desktop in finder though. Use Terminal to delete the fonts.
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i believe i'm gonna leave it and go with the computer to the apple centre on monday.
if they can't fix it, i'll reinstall :eek:
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that problem really stinks, just because you accently dropped the fonts onto the desktop instead of the folder you will have to resinstall everything if you don't get them off the desktop... sorry to hear about that, and I now know to watch where I put my files.

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It is why I have two admin and a normal user account. If I screw up something royally with one of my admin accounts I still have the other to log in to so I can try and fix it. In theory I was going to use the non-admin account for day to day stuff but honestly that did not happen. I might try it again when I go to Tiger.
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yes, I have an extra admin account just for troubleshooting. anyway, to powerbook g4, this problem isn't because the fonts were dropped onto the desktop, thats obviously slowing loading, but just adding so many fonts and having them all active is causing the problem, and most likiely causing a few font/system problems too.
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have you tried just waiting???? or is it locking up?? i would suggest not touching anything other than the power button to turn it on for a very long time and then see what you can do

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well, i got my machine to work again. sorta.
i went on the firewire mode with another computer and deleted the fonts off the desktop.
now the system loads completely, but some applications stopped responding, for example safari.

should i reinstall anyway, or should i first try running some disk repair thingies?

also, i have deleted all fonts off my computer before and added only those i wanted.
i have 127 fonts now, in my font book. can i export them into the suitcase somehow?
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I'd try reinstalling just the unresponsive apps, you can use pacifist to reinstall things that install with the os like safari.
first, you'll need to deactivate all but the system fonts from fontbook, you know which are system fonts cause they can not be deactivated. when you buy suitcase, it comes with an app called font doctor which will arrange your fonts alphabetically in folders, then use suitcase to create sets and add what you want, you an also use suitcase to manage system fonts, you set that up in preferences.
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see i have a little problem >_<
i might have deleted the system fonts and i think my apple is ****ing with me because of that (partially).
btw, just re-downloaded and re-installed safari but no dice, still not working.
certain applications, like yahoo messenger, are running but quiting on me when say, trying to access preferences.
i just did the repair disk permissions but yeah.
i think it looks like i should reinstall the OS.
any tips on how to do it smoothly? i'd probably choose for a custom install to avoid re-installing it ALL.
aaargh.
lesson learned lol
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