OS 10.5 - Application (not responding)

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #1 (**permalink**)

08-12-2009, 08:10 PM

Hi, i have an annoying problem and wondered if anyone has the answer...

On many applications, i get the spinning beach ball for several mins, and the computer is in a "crashed" state. I have to keep force quit open in the corner of my screen now so i don't have to wait. The apps are shown as (not responding) during the spinning beach ball's spinning, and i think the computer is generally just running slow. This all just happened quite suddenly, it feels like i have a virus or something but i have done some checks and found nothing...

Some applications with problems are safari (especially on sites with java eg. eBay) , firefox, photoshop, messenger for mac, disk utility (when trying to do something about the problem)

I have tried some of the troubleshooting options in the sticky thread, but none help.

Any help or ideas greatly appreciated! thanks

Collin Bl · Collin Bl #2 (**permalink**)

08-12-2009, 08:13 PM

Not a virus in all probability but your network is set up poorly and all the beach ball is telling you is that it is taking a while to resolve conflicting settings

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #3 (**permalink**)

08-13-2009, 06:23 AM

thanks for the reply.

What do you mean by conflicting settings? and do you know what i can do to resolve this?

bobtomay · bobtomay #4 (**permalink**)

08-13-2009, 06:56 AM

Since you have issues with apps (like photoshop and disk utility) that have nothing to do with your network settings; worst case - you could have a drive with the beginning signs of a failure.

I'd reboot with your original disk and run Disk Utiltiy to have it verify and repair the drive. Here's a walkthrough of the process.

What Mac do you have?
How much memory does it have?
What size is your hard drive and how much free space is remaining?
Is the drive making any clicking noises?

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #5 (**permalink**)

08-14-2009, 06:35 AM

When i open disk utility, the option to repair disk is greyed out for some reason.

I'm pretty sure i don't have an "Apple Software Restore disc (included with newer Macs) or a Mac OS X Install disc" which the instructions mention so i don't really no what to do.

I have a macbook white, leopard 10.5.8
Memory 4gb
Hard drive 150gb used , 80gb free
And no clicking noises

bobtomay · bobtomay #6 (**permalink**)

08-14-2009, 06:43 AM

The software restore disks were included with your machine if you bought it new. You need your disk.

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #7 (**permalink**)

08-14-2009, 06:57 AM

I bought it new last year, and i didn't have to use a disk to install as far as i remember. I have the box but it is empty apart from some polystyrene packaging.

edit : i've found the disks i'll try it now.

thanks

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #8 (**permalink**)

08-14-2009, 12:54 PM

(un)fortunately according to disk utility the disk appears to be ok.

However i did notice that when i pressed repair disk permissions, a list of the disk permission errors came up each time, and didn't seem to be repaired.

anything else i should do?

vansmith · vansmith #9 (**permalink**)

08-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Are you sure you didn't just verify? If you didn't and DU couldn't fix all the permissions, try repairing the disk permissions again.

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #10 (**permalink**)

08-15-2009, 12:42 PM

I repaired permissions multiple times and there are still a few erors which come up each time and arent fixed. Could this be the root of the problems maybe?

vansmith · vansmith #11 (**permalink**)

08-15-2009, 05:43 PM

It's possible that fsck may be better able to fix any errors/permission problems. Follow the guide here to restart in single-user mode and run fsck. The instructions are about halfway down the page but reading the whole thing can't hurt.

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #12 (**permalink**)

08-15-2009, 06:02 PM

Pop in your install disk and reboot. Immediately after the chimes hold down the 'C" button, and go to Utilities in the Menu Bar and Run Repair Disk from there. If all is a-okay reboot and hold down 'D' which will load Apple Hardware Test and run that over the machine.

Keep us posted on results?

matt_12345 · matt_12345 #13 (**permalink**)

08-16-2009, 05:00 PM

Well the disk repair said the disk was fine, and so did the hardware test (though i only did the 3 minute one, not the hour one). The problems still persist... mostly now only on the internet though

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #14 (**permalink**)

08-16-2009, 05:42 PM

Get on to your ISP and see if you can download Network set up instructions as Collin said appears you have network problems. Are you using wireless and what does DNS settings say under System, Preferences > Network > Advanced > DNS?

bobtomay #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 21,796 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	08-13-2009, 06:56 AM Since you have issues with apps (like photoshop and disk utility) that have nothing to do with your network settings; worst case - you could have a drive with the beginning signs of a failure. I'd reboot with your original disk and run Disk Utiltiy to have it verify and repair the drive. Here's a walkthrough of the process. What Mac do you have? How much memory does it have? What size is your hard drive and how much free space is remaining? Is the drive making any clicking noises? I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus. Place your vote for our Member of the Month
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bobtomay #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 21,796 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	08-14-2009, 06:43 AM The software restore disks were included with your machine if you bought it new. You need your disk. I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus. Place your vote for our Member of the Month
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vansmith #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 19, 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 15,295 Mac Specs: 2012 13" MBP (2.5 i5, 8GB)	08-14-2009, 01:13 PM Are you sure you didn't just verify? If you didn't and DU couldn't fix all the permissions, try repairing the disk permissions again. Important Links: Community Guidelines : Use the reputation system if you've been helped. M-F Blog :: Write for the blog :: M-F IRC Channel - Chats every Sunday at 8PM EST.
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vansmith #11 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 19, 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 15,295 Mac Specs: 2012 13" MBP (2.5 i5, 8GB)	08-15-2009, 05:43 PM It's possible that fsck may be better able to fix any errors/permission problems. Follow the guide here to restart in single-user mode and run fsck. The instructions are about halfway down the page but reading the whole thing can't hurt. Important Links: Community Guidelines : Use the reputation system if you've been helped. M-F Blog :: Write for the blog :: M-F IRC Channel - Chats every Sunday at 8PM EST.
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matt_12345 #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-12-2009, 08:10 PM Hi, i have an annoying problem and wondered if anyone has the answer... On many applications, i get the spinning beach ball for several mins, and the computer is in a "crashed" state. I have to keep force quit open in the corner of my screen now so i don't have to wait. The apps are shown as (not responding) during the spinning beach ball's spinning, and i think the computer is generally just running slow. This all just happened quite suddenly, it feels like i have a virus or something but i have done some checks and found nothing... Some applications with problems are safari (especially on sites with java eg. eBay) , firefox, photoshop, messenger for mac, disk utility (when trying to do something about the problem) I have tried some of the troubleshooting options in the sticky thread, but none help. Any help or ideas greatly appreciated! thanks
	QUOTE Thanks

Collin Bl #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 07, 2009 Location: Napier NZ Posts: 3,273 Mac Specs: 27 iMac i5, 2.4 C2D MBP & iMac 20, 1TB dual TC, AppleTV, iPh4	08-12-2009, 08:13 PM Not a virus in all probability but your network is set up poorly and all the beach ball is telling you is that it is taking a while to resolve conflicting settings
	QUOTE Thanks

matt_12345 #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-14-2009, 06:35 AM When i open disk utility, the option to repair disk is greyed out for some reason. I'm pretty sure i don't have an "Apple Software Restore disc (included with newer Macs) or a Mac OS X Install disc" which the instructions mention so i don't really no what to do. I have a macbook white, leopard 10.5.8 Memory 4gb Hard drive 150gb used , 80gb free And no clicking noises
	QUOTE Thanks

matt_12345 #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-14-2009, 06:57 AM I bought it new last year, and i didn't have to use a disk to install as far as i remember. I have the box but it is empty apart from some polystyrene packaging. edit : i've found the disks i'll try it now. thanks
	QUOTE Thanks

matt_12345 #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-14-2009, 12:54 PM (un)fortunately according to disk utility the disk appears to be ok. However i did notice that when i pressed repair disk permissions, a list of the disk permission errors came up each time, and didn't seem to be repaired. anything else i should do?
	QUOTE Thanks

matt_12345 #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-15-2009, 12:42 PM I repaired permissions multiple times and there are still a few erors which come up each time and arent fixed. Could this be the root of the problems maybe?
	QUOTE Thanks

harryb2448 #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,074 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	08-15-2009, 06:02 PM Pop in your install disk and reboot. Immediately after the chimes hold down the 'C" button, and go to Utilities in the Menu Bar and Run Repair Disk from there. If all is a-okay reboot and hold down 'D' which will load Apple Hardware Test and run that over the machine. Keep us posted on results?
	QUOTE Thanks

matt_12345 #13 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 12, 2009 Posts: 11	08-16-2009, 05:00 PM Well the disk repair said the disk was fine, and so did the hardware test (though i only did the 3 minute one, not the hour one). The problems still persist... mostly now only on the internet though
	QUOTE Thanks

harryb2448 #14 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,074 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	08-16-2009, 05:42 PM Get on to your ISP and see if you can download Network set up instructions as Collin said appears you have network problems. Are you using wireless and what does DNS settings say under System, Preferences > Network > Advanced > DNS?
	QUOTE Thanks

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