OS 10.4 - G5 grinding to a halt!

Griffo · Griffo #1 (**permalink**)

04-16-2009, 09:05 AM

My son's imac G5 is slowly grinding to a halt. It started with 'system overload' messages when using Logic Studio but it has now extended into other areas as well.

Most of the time the system is sluggish and freezes if more than one Word document and 2 or 3 Safari windows are running. Logic can hardly run anything now.

He has tried all the remedies suggested by Apple for a Logic fix and has tried the OSX troubleshooting detailed in this forum 'sticky'. All to no avail.

Can anyone suggest what we might try now please?

baggss · baggss #2 (**permalink**)

04-16-2009, 12:52 PM

Might be time for an "Archive and Install".

Griffo · Griffo #3 (**permalink**)

04-16-2009, 03:35 PM

baggss

can you elaborate please?

Griffo · Griffo #4 (**permalink**)

04-17-2009, 05:35 AM

Can anyone kindly explain 'Archive & Install' and it's implications please?

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #5 (**permalink**)

04-17-2009, 05:44 AM

When you put in the OSX DVD and boot by holding C, you get to the install menu. In Options you can choose Archive and Install and it will leave all your settings and programs in place. Be sure to check the checkboxes to save everything. It's sort of like the 2nd Repair option in Windows XP but better in my experience and you don't loose anything.

I am wondering though if it might not be the hard drive dying? Just a guess but some of your symptoms sound like it. I would run the Apple Hardware Test off the OSX DVD first. Try booting with the OSX DVD that came with the iMac in the drive and hold down the Option key till the drive selection menu all shows up. See if Apple Hardware Test appears (AHT). If so select that and when it comes up, choose Extended test and let it run. See if it finds anything wrong with the hard drive.

Griffo · Griffo #6 (**permalink**)

04-18-2009, 04:47 AM

dtravis7 - many thanks for the response. We will try your suggestions and report back.

cheers

Griffo · Griffo #7 (**permalink**)

04-20-2009, 08:01 AM

Update - the HD tests were all fine, so we went ahead with Archive/Install.

That appears to have done the trick - thanks. Things in Logic Pro are not crashing where they did before. However, some folders (ie; Components) are blank, yet the program seems to be working with the 'missing' components.

It seems there is stuff in the 'Previous System' back-up that needs to be copied across? Do we need to go through everything to find out what is in Previous Systems but not appearing in the 'new' program files/folders?

If so, do we just drag/drop stuff across?

baggss · baggss #8 (**permalink**)

04-20-2009, 10:52 AM

Dragging stuff from the old system folder should work, or you can you simply reinstall the programs in question. If you drag stuff I would recommend running "Repair permissions" from disc utility when you are done. When you are done you can delete the old system folder.

Griffo · Griffo #9 (**permalink**)

04-21-2009, 01:52 PM

thanks for the advice.

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Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,895 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	04-17-2009, 05:44 AM When you put in the OSX DVD and boot by holding C, you get to the install menu. In Options you can choose Archive and Install and it will leave all your settings and programs in place. Be sure to check the checkboxes to save everything. It's sort of like the 2nd Repair option in Windows XP but better in my experience and you don't loose anything. I am wondering though if it might not be the hard drive dying? Just a guess but some of your symptoms sound like it. I would run the Apple Hardware Test off the OSX DVD first. Try booting with the OSX DVD that came with the iMac in the drive and hold down the Option key till the drive selection menu all shows up. See if Apple Hardware Test appears (AHT). If so select that and when it comes up, choose Extended test and let it run. See if it finds anything wrong with the hard drive. ...Dennis Mac-Forums Community Guidelines
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Griffo #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 107	04-16-2009, 09:05 AM My son's imac G5 is slowly grinding to a halt. It started with 'system overload' messages when using Logic Studio but it has now extended into other areas as well. Most of the time the system is sluggish and freezes if more than one Word document and 2 or 3 Safari windows are running. Logic can hardly run anything now. He has tried all the remedies suggested by Apple for a Logic fix and has tried the OSX troubleshooting detailed in this forum 'sticky'. All to no avail. Can anyone suggest what we might try now please?
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baggss #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 10, 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 10,306 Mac Specs: 27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 18.8.2-64Gb iPad 2-32 Gb iPhone 5-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage	04-16-2009, 12:52 PM Might be time for an "Archive and Install".
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Griffo #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 107	04-17-2009, 05:35 AM Can anyone kindly explain 'Archive & Install' and it's implications please?
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Griffo #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 107	04-18-2009, 04:47 AM dtravis7 - many thanks for the response. We will try your suggestions and report back. cheers
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Griffo #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 107	04-20-2009, 08:01 AM Update - the HD tests were all fine, so we went ahead with Archive/Install. That appears to have done the trick - thanks. Things in Logic Pro are not crashing where they did before. However, some folders (ie; Components) are blank, yet the program seems to be working with the 'missing' components. It seems there is stuff in the 'Previous System' back-up that needs to be copied across? Do we need to go through everything to find out what is in Previous Systems but not appearing in the 'new' program files/folders? If so, do we just drag/drop stuff across?
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baggss #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 10, 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 10,306 Mac Specs: 27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 18.8.2-64Gb iPad 2-32 Gb iPhone 5-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage	04-20-2009, 10:52 AM Dragging stuff from the old system folder should work, or you can you simply reinstall the programs in question. If you drag stuff I would recommend running "Repair permissions" from disc utility when you are done. When you are done you can delete the old system folder.
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Griffo #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 107	04-21-2009, 01:52 PM thanks for the advice.
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