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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmsb View Post
    Did that. The first item in the list is "Album" and the last item is "Year recored" but there is no "System files".
    Check these pics. It's not the other next door to kind, it's the Kind menu drops down like this when you click then you select Other from there and a selector will open. That is the 2nd pic here. Scroll to the bottom and select System Files. Then look at my 3rd pic. Be sure to select Include.

    If you look at the 2nd pic the In Menu checkbox he was talking about is there. Check that.

    Hope this helps.
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    Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. But you have "System files" between "Subject" and "Tempo". On my machine (10.4.11) it's not there. Our two lists are similar, but with many differences.

    But EasyFind works great. I doubt that "System files" would have found the ".vcf" files anyway, they're not "system". EasyFind located several dozen of them and let me delete them.

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    Well that's the problem, Spotlight on Tiger works differently than on Leopard. By default in Leopard spotlight doesn't search inside the library folder, which is why you would need to include system files on Leopard. Tiger already searches inside the library.

    EasyFind is a great program too, so as long as you found a solution that works for you, that's the important thing.

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    See, now I don't get this. I hate it when the computer thinks it knows what I want to do better than I do. I don't understand the logic of a FIND command that doesn't find everything. In 2008 are we not supposed to need to search the library folder? This seems like a "dumbing down" of computer use that is unnecessary.

    Anyway, the ".vcf" files are not System files nor are they in the Library folder. They're just annoying email attachments. The Apple FIND command still can't see them. And no one has an explanation for it.

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    If I remember correctly if you dp the following:

    find / -name "*.vcf"

    It appears that nothing happens, but if you add

    find / -name "*.vcf" -print

    You will see the file you are looking for. You may need to do the following thou.

    sudo find / -name "*.vcf" -print

    Also like root suggested if you want to just delete the files then

    sudo find / - name "*.vcf" -exec rm -i {} \;

    I added the -i option to enable prompting for each file to be deleted.
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    You may find my reply exasperating. On the one hand I want more control over my computer, on the other hand I don't want to run it (or search) with a command line interface anymore! To me, this doesn't seem like too much to ask.

    But the new format of the command you suggest gives me a lot of hits not found by EasyFind. Dozens of hits in fact. Most of them are "Permission denied" on files that don't seem to be ".vcf" files. This is the kind of result that makes a Terminal query seem excessively cumbersome. Here's the beginning of the results:

    MacPro:~ bryan$ find / -name "*.vcf" -print
    find: /.Spotlight-V100: Permission denied
    find: /.Trashes: Permission denied
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/es.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/it.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/ja.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/nl.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    find: /Library/Logs/Console/502: Permission denied
    find: /private/etc/cups/certs: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/backups: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/dhcpclient: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/openldap/openldap-data: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/openldap/openldap-slurp: Permission denied
    ..... for several more screens .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmsb View Post
    You may find my reply exasperating. On the one hand I want more control over my computer, on the other hand I don't want to run it (or search) with a command line interface anymore! To me, this doesn't seem like too much to ask.

    But the new format of the command you suggest gives me a lot of hits not found by EasyFind. Dozens of hits in fact. Most of them are "Permission denied" on files that don't seem to be ".vcf" files. This is the kind of result that makes a Terminal query seem excessively cumbersome. Here's the beginning of the results:

    MacPro:~ bryan$ find / -name "*.vcf" -print
    find: /.Spotlight-V100: Permission denied
    find: /.Trashes: Permission denied
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/es.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/it.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/ja.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    /Applications/OmniOutliner.app/Contents/Resources/nl.lproj/Older Release Notes.oo3/The Omni Group.vcf
    find: /Library/Logs/Console/502: Permission denied
    find: /private/etc/cups/certs: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/backups: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/dhcpclient: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/openldap/openldap-data: Permission denied
    find: /private/var/db/openldap/openldap-slurp: Permission denied
    ..... for several more screens .....
    You're getting permission denied because you're running the command under a limited account. To run it as an admin, preface the command with sudo. You'll be prompted for your administrator password and then it will touch every file, regardless of the degree of sensitivity.
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    Yep, that works. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdmsb View Post
    Yep, that works. Thanks.
    Oh, and to answer your other question - yes, it should be easier than this to get Spotlight to actually do a full search, other than just searching its own index. I had hoped that with Leopard, they would have enable an "advanced search" mode, and to some extent they did - but it's still pretty cumbersome to use.

    I still use EasyFind, but I haven't ever done a search with it (given that I specified hidden and system files) that didn't return what I was looking for.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

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