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OK i got office 08 a few days ago and today was the first day i could try it out. It sucked!
It was very disappointing, so i went back to using iWork 08.
It's so much easier to use.
Anyone else disappointed with MS Office 08?
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I assume it's the same as the newest office for Vista. I have to use it on my school computer, and I hate it.
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oh come on! What did you expect from Microsoft? I have tried to use '07 on a coworkers PC. Once. Completely bewildering.
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Personally I like Office 2008 and prefer it to iWork.

I'm guessing from the in depth description of why it "sucks", you're just on the anti-MS bandwagon?

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Personally I like Office 2008 and prefer it to iWork.

I'm guessing from the in depth description of why it "sucks", you're just on the anti-MS bandwagon?
definitely not on the "anti-MS bandwagon".
I've been using MS Office 04 Mac for 4 years, and it's been great. Office 08 is a big disappointment imo.
I was getting kinda tired of 04, so i got iWork 08 and it's much better then MS Office 08.
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Personally I like Office 2008 and prefer it to iWork.
I'm with Schweb. I like Office 2007 on Windows and thus really like Office 2008 for Mac. Sure, iWork is nice, but overall, Office is much better. I have both so that I can use Keynote, Word, and Excel.

Perhaps you would like to expand a bit as to why you think Office 2008 "sucks." As was the case with Office 2007, people didn't like it because of the new interface. It's possible that your frustration lies in you not being used to the Ribbon interface rather than a fundamental flaw in Office 2008 itself.


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Have been using Office 2007 (excel for at least 5 hrs a day) at work for several months now. Still think the ribbon bites the bullit.

Do have it set up with all my regular stuff added at the top (forget what MS is calling that bar and the ribbon minimized, so it doesn't really slow down my workflow any longer, at least not much.

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[Personal opinion] The only useful office apps are excel and access [/Personal Opinion]
The only reason I would buy office for OSX is for Excel - Word is an awful word processor and bad value for money - compare with Nisus express - regardless of which platform you use it on. Powerpoint presentations are a small-ish market, and selling a glorified outlook express/Address Book/iCal as an app doesn't make up for the lack of Access.
I'm happy using Open Office Org which gives me roughly the same functionality for free, though it does have an unmaclike-ish appearance and runs under X11 but i can cope with that
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definitely not on the "anti-MS bandwagon".
I've been using MS Office 04 Mac for 4 years, and it's been great. Office 08 is a big disappointment imo.
I was getting kinda tired of 04, so i got iWork 08 and it's much better then MS Office 08.
I'm still waiting on the details as to why you think it's so bad.

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Powerpoint presentations are a small-ish market,
You're kidding right? Powerpoint is a hugely used app. Why do you think it gets some of the most attention at every Office upgrade?

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Have been using Office 2007 (excel for at least 5 hrs a day) at work for several months now. Still think the ribbon bites the bullit.
I wasn't too sure about the ribbon myself when I first upgraded to 2007 at work. However now I absolutely love it. I think Office 2007 is possibly one of the best upgrades of Office in awhile.

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Powerpoint presentations are a small-ish market,
You're kidding right? Powerpoint is a hugely used app. Why do you think it gets some of the most attention at every Office upgrade?
Not kidding, am just speaking from the point of view
I've used powerpoint very little and compared with Excel and Word I think of it as a smaller market
Everyone uses word processing in some shape or form, not everyone does presentations
I use spreadsheets a lot, and the only reason i load power point is when people send me email jokes in ppt format
Powerpoint must be a smaller market than word, and in my world it's smaller than Excel and potentially Access
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Not kidding, am just speaking from the point of view that I've used it very little and compared with Excel and Word I think of it as a smaller market
Everyone uses word processing in some shape or form, not everyone uses Powerpoint
I use spreadsheets a lot, and the only reason i load power point is when people send me email jokes in ppt format
Powerpoint must be a smaller market than word, and in my world it's smaller than Excel and potentially Access
You must not work in the corporate environment. PowerPoint is used all the time by almost everyone. Almost no one but analysts use Access (and even they rarely do), we get reporting in Excel. But I honestly use PowerPoint much more than Word.

Of all the Office apps, Access by far is the least used. I would say the other three are about equal.

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Personally I like Office 2008 and prefer it to iWork.

I'm guessing from the in depth description of why it "sucks", you're just on the anti-MS bandwagon?
looks that way.

Office far from Reeks. I do love iWork and for most basic things I prefer it to Office but it's still lacking in features and complete compatibility compared to Office.

IWork 08 is a big step in the right direction and I believe in the future it will improve even more. For the average home user iWork is great but for full compatibility with the rest of the world and for more Pro usage, Office is still the one to go with.

I really do not like Access at all and just use Excel for that kind of work. A lot of people love Keynote and I can see why, but Pages and Numbers for sure need a bit more work. Numbers is brand new so give it some time and I am sure it will be a great spreadsheet app as time goes on. What is there is not bad, it just needs more.
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I'm still waiting on the details as to why you think it's so bad.
Why I think iWork 08 is better then MS Office 08 Mac
Pages is compatible with arabic, where as Microsoft Word 08 isn't. I need arabic word processing for one of my classes, and all i have is a Mac, so it's important that i have a good word processor compatible with Arabic.
Microsoft office has too many features that i really dont need. Not to mention the fact that Office 08 takes up over 900mb on my hard drive while iWork 08 takes up 685mb.
Powerpoint 08 is something i am REALLY disappointed with. The themes arent as good as from any of the previous versions, and it just seems more boring. Keynote on the other hand has more enjoyable themes and is compatible with Arabic, unlike Powerpoint.
Excel however is far superior to Numbers. Numbers, like the other person said, is still in it's early position, and it needs time to grow. Numbers doesn't have nearly as many features as Excel.
iWork was about $70 cheaper then Office 08 for Mac.
On my Mac, iWork 08 runs much much much faster then Office 08. Things like application launching, saving, and opening are all at least 3 times faster on iWork 08 then MS Office 08.

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