Safari v Firefox

chrisiw · chrisiw #1 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 02:00 PM

I always use Safari because I find it runs very fast on my MacBook, I also have Firefox and find I have to use it some times as Safari doesnt always display the page properly, has anybody else found this or is it just my system

planetfiber · planetfiber #2 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 02:08 PM

there are tons of pages made with internet explorer in mind, so don't freak out, it is not your system. Just use the one that suits you best.

XMARLTONX · XMARLTONX #3 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 06:26 PM

I use Safari all the time, but keep Firefox installed just incase.

Frattimonde · Frattimonde #4 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 06:32 PM

Seamonkey for me, Safari for flash sites though.

remain · remain #5 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 06:41 PM

Firefox is better for compatibility.

One web site developer has once said that Safari is hard to develop for because it doesn't support some things that many web sites require.
For instance, these don't work in Safari:
-chat in Gmail
-Yahoo! Mail Beta
-Windows Live Hotmail full version
However, that developer has also said that the Safari 3 Beta is much better in this respect and supports a lot more things.
So support and compatibility for Safari might improve in the future.

A little suggestion:

If you wish to have Firefox's compatibility
but want a more Mac OS X-like look and feel as well as speed,
try out Camino:

http://caminobrowser.org/

It is made in Cocoa so it runs faster than Firefox.

It uses the exact same rendering engine as Firefox, so sites are supposed to display exactly the same as in Firefox (except Camino uses Aqua widgets in web pages for buttons, dropdown menus, etc.).

The only thing is that a lot of sites detect whether you have a compatible browser, and not rendering engine.
As such, for some sites, Firefox is allowed
but Camino is blocked (even though it would display the site the exact same way as Firefox).

The solution to this is to change the user agent:

Type about:config in the address bar,
then find and change
general.useragent.vendor to Firefox
general.useragent.vendorSub to 2.0.0.4
Now sites will think that Camino is Firefox.

This way, you can have the best of both worlds.

fleurya · fleurya #6 (**permalink**)

07-06-2007, 08:33 PM

Firefox can do lots of fun stuff that Safari can't. But for a simple websurfer like me, that junk can just get in the way. I use Safari because it's simple and just works well. I have to use Firefox for my University's online student tools because they aren't Safari compatible.

chrisiw · chrisiw #7 (**permalink**)

07-07-2007, 01:37 AM

Thanks guys for all the feedback, this Forum is great for help and advice.

Chris

ki99 · ki99 #8 (**permalink**)

07-07-2007, 01:56 AM

hey ramain, thanks, i just got camino and i love it.

planetfiber #2 (permalink)
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Frattimonde #4 (permalink)
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remain #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 27, 2006 Posts: 440 Mac Specs: Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz	07-06-2007, 06:41 PM Firefox is better for compatibility. One web site developer has once said that Safari is hard to develop for because it doesn't support some things that many web sites require. For instance, these don't work in Safari: -chat in Gmail -Yahoo! Mail Beta -Windows Live Hotmail full version However, that developer has also said that the Safari 3 Beta is much better in this respect and supports a lot more things. So support and compatibility for Safari might improve in the future. A little suggestion: If you wish to have Firefox's compatibility but want a more Mac OS X-like look and feel as well as speed, try out Camino: http://caminobrowser.org/ It is made in Cocoa so it runs faster than Firefox. It uses the exact same rendering engine as Firefox, so sites are supposed to display exactly the same as in Firefox (except Camino uses Aqua widgets in web pages for buttons, dropdown menus, etc.). The only thing is that a lot of sites detect whether you have a compatible browser, and not rendering engine. As such, for some sites, Firefox is allowed but Camino is blocked (even though it would display the site the exact same way as Firefox). The solution to this is to change the user agent: Type about:config in the address bar, then find and change general.useragent.vendor to Firefox general.useragent.vendorSub to 2.0.0.4 Now sites will think that Camino is Firefox. This way, you can have the best of both worlds. Cog 0.07 audio player - cogx.org AAC, AIFF, APE, FLAC, M4A, MP3, MPC, OGG, SHN, WAV, WV, tracker formats, VG music formats, cue sheets, M3U & PLS, Growl, Last.fm, Apple Remote Latest Nightly Build (0.08) (new interface!) - Got ideas? Report bugs? Last edited by remain; 07-07-2007 at 03:01 PM.
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Member Since: Nov 18, 2006 Location: Anytown, USA Posts: 4,876 Mac Specs: 27" iMac 2.7GHz Core i5, iPhone 4S, 3rd gen iPad	07-06-2007, 08:33 PM Firefox can do lots of fun stuff that Safari can't. But for a simple websurfer like me, that junk can just get in the way. I use Safari because it's simple and just works well. I have to use Firefox for my University's online student tools because they aren't Safari compatible. "Give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others"
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ki99 #8 (permalink)
Member Since: May 31, 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada. Posts: 926 Mac Specs: Macbook(W) 2GHz, 80GB HD, 1G RAM, Windows XP	07-07-2007, 01:56 AM hey ramain, thanks, i just got camino and i love it. \| MacUpdate \| VersionTracker \| FORUM RULES \|
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chrisiw #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 06, 2007 Location: Isle of Wight UK Posts: 252 Mac Specs: iMac, iPad, MacBook Pro.	07-06-2007, 02:00 PM I always use Safari because I find it runs very fast on my MacBook, I also have Firefox and find I have to use it some times as Safari doesnt always display the page properly, has anybody else found this or is it just my system
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chrisiw #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 06, 2007 Location: Isle of Wight UK Posts: 252 Mac Specs: iMac, iPad, MacBook Pro.	07-07-2007, 01:37 AM Thanks guys for all the feedback, this Forum is great for help and advice. Chris
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