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    Playing a game without a CD / help!
    Hi!

    I bought Age of Empires 3 for Mac and it's awesome!

    Only drawback is that I need to put in the CD every time I want to play the game. Is there any way by which I can play the game without having to use the CD every time (like copying it on the HD or something like that)??

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    Most games usually have some sort of copy protection scheme that is on the CD so that having it there means that you have a valid copy of the game..attempting to work-around that is breaking those copy protection schemes and cannot be discussed here..

    Is it really that much of a chore to pop a CD in to play?

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    well, im not talking about breaking any protection schemes...I've bought the game legally.

    However, as I do travel alot, I don't always want to take the CDs with me (as there's more risk of breaking them, scratching them, etc...). Had the game been on my HD (like with SC 2, which I bought online) then I wouldnt have to worry about this problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    well, im not talking about breaking any protection schemes...I've bought the game legally.
    Tough luck, according to copyright law. Even if you have bought it legally, you arent allowed. Using the game without a CD is breaking protection.

    Trust me, we are on your side. there should no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to do this, seeing as you legally bought the game. But until copyright laws are re-written you are just gonna have to deal with it, or go to the shadier side of the web to get what you want.


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    bah..copyright law sucks ((

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    This is an aged old story about game companies trying to protect their hard work and gamers looking for convenience. The old DRM method of requiring you to enter some random word from the manual is long gone since people might not be careful with the manual..but using the physical media (CD these days, but floppies from back in the day) to authenticate ownership is more feasible.

    A few developers opted to use authentication to a server on the Internet for their games and got a lot of backlash from gamers..so there is no clear solution to this..for as long as pirates are out to grab and release games there'll be some sort of DRM in place to TRY to keep honest people honest..

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    This is why steam is just about the greatest thing to happen to gaming ever. Unfortunately Age of Empires is not on steam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thurstmw View Post
    This is why steam is just about the greatest thing to happen to gaming ever. Unfortunately Age of Empires is not on steam.
    Steam is the worst thing ever. period.

    no internet? then sorry, you cant play your legit games. log in first so you can turn offline mode on.

    oh i see you have your internet back! its time for me to crash then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robduckyworth View Post
    Steam is the worst thing ever. period.

    no internet? then sorry, you cant play your legit games. log in first so you can turn offline mode on.

    oh i see you have your internet back! its time for me to crash then.
    It crashes a lot on mac not on pc. They just dont care about us mac people. And if you turn on offline mode in the first place then you can start it up just fine in offline mode any time.

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    mine consistently crashes on my PC whenever the game crashes (especially games with mods) and it takes about ten years for it to log on again. its just a massive DRM barrier with a corner shop mutated onto it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robduckyworth View Post
    mine consistently crashes on my PC whenever the game crashes (especially games with mods) and it takes about ten years for it to log on again. its just a massive DRM barrier with a corner shop mutated onto it.
    Well then just buy the games on disc for those that you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thurstmw View Post
    Well then just buy the games on disc for those that you can.
    I dont buy games off Steam, I buy them on disc, only to find they are "Steam-powered" and that i have to use the stupid application in order to play them.

    When it works, and if I had good internet, it would be fine. But I don't have either of those things usually. I have to start up in offline mode in order to get it to log in properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robduckyworth View Post
    I dont buy games off Steam, I buy them on disc, only to find they are "Steam-powered" and that i have to use the stupid application in order to play them.

    When it works, and if I had good internet, it would be fine. But I don't have either of those things usually. I have to start up in offline mode in order to get it to log in properly.
    Surprised to see that kind of reaction. I love Steam and it's been pretty darned stable for me on my Windows 7 gaming rig. On the Mac it's been less so, but then, it's not nearly as mature as the Windows version (I've been running Steam since 2004, when HL2 debuted with it).

    Either way, I'd say Steam is DRM done right (or about as well as it can be) - it's unobtrusive and actually opens up the possibility of porting a game to any computer I log into with my Steam account.

    If you were a geek in the days of games on floppies with copy-protection, you'd understand just how annoying DRM can be. Especially when some bone-headed copy protection scheme knocked your $250 floppy drive out of alignment
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwa107 View Post
    Either way, I'd say Steam is DRM done right (or about as well as it can be) - it's unobtrusive and actually opens up the possibility of porting a game to any computer I log into with my Steam account.

    If you were a geek in the days of games on floppies with copy-protection, you'd understand just how annoying DRM can be. Especially when some bone-headed copy protection scheme knocked your $250 floppy drive out of alignment
    Haha no experience of floppy drive de-alignment myself

    as for DRM: i can definitely see why people like Steam. It libraries your games, online is through Steam, not scattered via different services like battlenet, gamespy and so on, and for anyone with a decent connection it would seem spot on.

    But for those of us that cant seem to get stable connection (im on the edge of my wifi range, constantly disconnects) and for when it crashes, i cant play unless I log back on. I ask, why do I have to log back on in order to play this game? I authorised the key through Steam. Do you not trust me anymore? Do you think in the period between playing the game (through Steam) and it crashing, I have downloaded a new pirated version? why cant i just play it?

    Of course this is definitely not a widely based issue, its rather personal to me, but it really gets on my nerve.

    The best DRM is no DRM. Its obvious you cant stop it. I think developers need to inject a little bit of trust into the consumers. Don't force us to use an application like Steam; it should be out of choice. Its not fair that pirates can get past it and we can't.
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