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cptkrf 01-11-2010 03:31 PM

Is it just me with Mail?
Quite a catchy name for the email program that comes with Snow Leopard - Mail.

I am about to change back to Thunderbird that I know works consistently. I am an Apple newbie but Mail seems to be underdeveloped.

1. To make a new account, it doesn't ask if you want Pop or IMap. It just goes ahead with IMap with no method of changing, either during or later, that I can find. If it finds an IMap server, that is what you are going to get, period. I can find no way of forcing a POP account. My nephew says that this has changed from version 3, where a selection box came up during account building.

2. The mailboxes are named for the service being used. i.e. Gmail, Gmail2, Hotmail and so forth. There is a menu item for renaming them, but it is grayed out and I have discovered no way to enable it.

3. The docs that I link to at Apple are dated 2004 and in no way match. I am sure that the 2010 docs are there somewhere, but the HELP menu should find them without me googling around.

4. If the service you are trying to get to doesn't support IMap, it will eventually error out and allow you to select POP, but it labels the account as IMap forevermore.

Don't care for it at this point.

dtravis7 01-11-2010 03:41 PM

Something is wrong. I have never had it make an IMAP account when setting up my 6 email accounts. Never once. I have never had that happen with 10 different Macs with from 10.2-10.6 installed.

Not sure what is happening but I will search around and get back if I find an answer.

Mickyfin 01-12-2010 01:27 AM

I too am a little confused with the email in SL. Long time user of Thunderbird myself, and at the moment, struggling to add folders for my emails, "Incoming Saved" I would like to add, but can't figure it out, so I too maybe reverting to TB again.

Slydude 01-12-2010 02:17 AM

@ Mickyfin

Are you trying o add separate mailboxes so that you can organize your Mail? If so try going to Mail's Mailbox menu and choose New Mailbox. Options will appear that let you create a new mailbox (folder) and decide where in the Mail sidebar it will appear. You might want to check out Smart Mailboxes as well.

Mickyfin 01-12-2010 02:23 AM

Thats correct, and I did try that, but I still couldn't place my folder where I wanted it, it only allowed me to put the folder in GMAIL.

I will have another play around with it as see if I can figure it out, failing that, I have just downloaded TB, but would like to get mail sorted if possible.

Thanks for your reply.

cptkrf 01-22-2010 02:52 PM

Ok. I got to play with an older Mac Mini that still has Mail 3.x on it and that version is more like a normal email package. When you want to make a new account, you get a list of parameters to fill out the way you want, rather than a "wizard" that assumes that it knows better than you.

And, notice that there is no account delete feature in Mail 4. You can delete the folder, dump the mail and disable the account, but not totally wipe out the account. Actually, you can eventually, but you have to do it from underneath the GUI.

Comparing the two, Apple really yanked out many of the user settable options and features between 3 and 4. Not an improvement. Somebody needs to tell Jobs to look in on the Mail programming section more often.

baggss 01-22-2010 03:41 PM

Yes. It is just you.

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