Extract ppc or intel app from universal app

willwinuk · willwinuk #1 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 03:11 PM

Hi,
There is a cool option in MacPilot that lets you extract a ppc or intel app from a universal app. But I don't want to buy this program just for that.
Is there another program (freeware) for this purpose?

p.s I hope this is the right place for this

D3v1L80Y · D3v1L80Y #2 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:04 PM

If the application is Universal... what's the benefit in extracting one or the other?

It already works for both.

willwinuk · willwinuk #3 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:08 PM

Isn't a ppc app on a ppc mac a little faster the using a universal app?

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #4 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:11 PM

Speed is not the issue. It would run the same either way. A Universal Application takes up more hard drive space since it has code for both PPC and Intel. Otherwise it would make no difference in the way it operates.

D3v1L80Y · D3v1L80Y #5 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwinuk

Isn't a ppc app on a ppc mac a little faster the using a universal app?

No, why would it be?
By its very definition, a Universal app is a PPC app.
It just happens to be coded for Intel as well.

willwinuk · willwinuk #6 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:15 PM

I thought I heard somewhere that individual processor apps where faster then the universal ones.

mystic_fm · mystic_fm #7 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:28 PM

I concur with the others: there should be absolutely no performance penalty for running a Universal app, only a slight increase in overall disk space usage. See the Wikipedia article below for more information on why this should be the case:

Universal binary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lifeisabeach · lifeisabeach #8 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwinuk

Hi,
There is a cool option in MacPilot that lets you extract a ppc or intel app from a universal app. But I don't want to buy this program just for that.
Is there another program (freeware) for this purpose?

p.s I hope this is the right place for this

TrimTheFat will do this, and it is free.
TrimTheFat 0.7 software download - Mac OS X - VersionTracker

Be aware that stripping the PPC or Intel code WILL break some apps. Not many, but there are a few.

willwinuk · willwinuk #9 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 05:05 PM

Thank you 'lifeisabeach'.

So people know, 'Speed Download' is broken if you extract the ppc copy.

UPDATE: The ppc apps seem a little faster when extracted then running them as a universal app on my G3.

louishen · louishen #10 (**permalink**)

05-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Monolingual will also do what you are after

SourceForge.net: Monolingual: Files

willwinuk · willwinuk #11 (**permalink**)

05-23-2009, 07:11 AM

Thanks louishen, I like how it also removes extra language files from programs, which may help with speed, but if nothing else it saves disk space.

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #12 (**permalink**)

05-23-2009, 08:04 AM

If you are talking about Application loading speed, on that very old and very slow bus G3, it might make a difference trying to figure which code to load or something. Who knows. Everything loads slow on my iMac G3. It's old.

bobtomay · bobtomay #13 (**permalink**)

05-23-2009, 08:39 AM

Just be aware that those programs will break things. So, if you go to launch a program that won't work any longer, it's usually pretty easy to just re-install that one piece of software.

willwinuk · willwinuk #14 (**permalink**)

05-23-2009, 11:49 AM

Ok thanks everyone

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willwinuk #9 (permalink)
Member Since: May 22, 2009 Posts: 35 Mac Specs: iMac 27" 3.4 GHz i7, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB, 8 GB Ram running Mac OS X Lion 10.7	05-22-2009, 05:05 PM Thank you 'lifeisabeach'. So people know, 'Speed Download' is broken if you extract the ppc copy. UPDATE: The ppc apps seem a little faster when extracted then running them as a universal app on my G3. Last edited by willwinuk; 05-22-2009 at 06:06 PM.
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Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,895 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-23-2009, 08:04 AM If you are talking about Application loading speed, on that very old and very slow bus G3, it might make a difference trying to figure which code to load or something. Who knows. Everything loads slow on my iMac G3. It's old. ...Dennis Mac-Forums Community Guidelines
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willwinuk #1 (permalink)
Member Since: May 22, 2009 Posts: 35 Mac Specs: iMac 27" 3.4 GHz i7, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB, 8 GB Ram running Mac OS X Lion 10.7	05-22-2009, 03:11 PM Hi, There is a cool option in MacPilot that lets you extract a ppc or intel app from a universal app. But I don't want to buy this program just for that. Is there another program (freeware) for this purpose? p.s I hope this is the right place for this
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willwinuk #6 (permalink)
Member Since: May 22, 2009 Posts: 35 Mac Specs: iMac 27" 3.4 GHz i7, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB, 8 GB Ram running Mac OS X Lion 10.7	05-22-2009, 04:15 PM I thought I heard somewhere that individual processor apps where faster then the universal ones.
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mystic_fm #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 15, 2007 Posts: 161 Mac Specs: 17" MacBook Pro, 2.33GHz C2D, 2GB RAM	05-22-2009, 04:28 PM I concur with the others: there should be absolutely no performance penalty for running a Universal app, only a slight increase in overall disk space usage. See the Wikipedia article below for more information on why this should be the case: Universal binary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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willwinuk #11 (permalink)
Member Since: May 22, 2009 Posts: 35 Mac Specs: iMac 27" 3.4 GHz i7, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB, 8 GB Ram running Mac OS X Lion 10.7	05-23-2009, 07:11 AM Thanks louishen, I like how it also removes extra language files from programs, which may help with speed, but if nothing else it saves disk space.
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bobtomay #13 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 22,053 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	05-23-2009, 08:39 AM Just be aware that those programs will break things. So, if you go to launch a program that won't work any longer, it's usually pretty easy to just re-install that one piece of software. I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus.
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willwinuk #14 (permalink)
Member Since: May 22, 2009 Posts: 35 Mac Specs: iMac 27" 3.4 GHz i7, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB, 8 GB Ram running Mac OS X Lion 10.7	05-23-2009, 11:49 AM Ok thanks everyone
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