Smart Mailbox deleted emails deleting from mailbox...

Breesok · Breesok #1 (**permalink**)

05-04-2009, 03:23 PM

Due to a high volume of email, I LOVE the idea of Smart Mailboxes. I started using them recently; however discovered that when I deleted SOME of the items from my inbox, they would also delete from my Smart Mailbox.

I got so nervous about relying on it, that I moved everything into manual mailboxes again (ugh).

I'd like to set up Smart Mailboxes again to manage my mail, but I don't know what I did wrong to make this occur.

I'm not a spaz, but what did I do wrong? Anyone???

Thanks.

skybolt · skybolt #2 (**permalink**)

05-05-2009, 11:10 AM

The behavior you experienced is correct -- deleting from your main mailbox will delete from the smart mailbox (it is "smart" enough to recognize this). If you want to organize a little better, use Rules (See Preferences>rules). Set a rule based on certain criteria in your incoming mail messages, and then tell Mail to move any mail that matches that criteria to a specified mailbox. Easy enough.

Breesok · Breesok #3 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 06:59 PM

It sounds kind of round-about complicated, but I'm sure there was some logic to it when they were developing it. Thank you so much Mary :-)

Collin Bl · Collin Bl #4 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 07:27 PM

You can make a New Mailbox and drag appropriate mail to that so that it will be out of your inbox but still available should you need to go in there looking for it. Smart Mailbox is really only a sorting device and as Skybolt suggests you can make a rule to put all incoming per rule into the New Mailbox so that it does not show up in the Inbox

Breesok · Breesok #5 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 07:30 PM

I set a Rule in my Mail app Preferences to have all emails from a spammer automatically deleted.

A couple of hours later, I was working and I heard my New Mail alarm, but when I checked my email, there was nothing - no indicator that an email of any kind had arrived in any folder, including the Trash.

I'm okay if this is the way the Rule works, but I just wanted to confirm whether the Delete instruction will delete a message without a trace of it arriving, but will sound the alarm to let you know that it's working...

Thanking you in advance for your reply.

Breesok · Breesok #6 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 07:39 PM

I like this... thanks to you as well! I just get soooo tired of routing through my inbox after I open a message, searching for it - even if I sort by date or alpha... I am definitely going to do this!

Collin Bl · Collin Bl #7 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 07:40 PM

Have a look at my rule here iMac - Mail 2.1.3 - Mac-Forums.com - that gives a weeks grace to have a look in Trash for any new before they are deleted automatically. Once they are moved out of Trash by delete i guess they may be recoverable on the ISPs server depending on how you have that set up.

Breesok · Breesok #8 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 08:05 PM

I set a Rule in my Mail app Preferences to have all emails from a spammer automatically deleted.

A couple of hours later, I was working and I heard my New Mail alarm, but when I checked my email, there was nothing - no indicator that an email of any kind had arrived in any folder, including the Trash.

I'm okay if this is the way the Rule works, but I just wanted to confirm whether the Delete instruction will delete a message without a trace of it arriving, but will sound the alarm to let you know that it's working...

Thanking you in advance for your reply.

D3v1L80Y · D3v1L80Y #9 (**permalink**)

05-31-2009, 08:41 PM

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Breesok · Breesok #10 (**permalink**)

06-01-2009, 11:26 PM

Thanks... but I'm not sure why this happened... twice! I'll try again.

skybolt #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 22, 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 681 Mac Specs: White 2010 MB, Core 2 Duo, 8g RAM, iPhone 4S, iPad Mini, Apple TV	05-05-2009, 11:10 AM The behavior you experienced is correct -- deleting from your main mailbox will delete from the smart mailbox (it is "smart" enough to recognize this). If you want to organize a little better, use Rules (See Preferences>rules). Set a rule based on certain criteria in your incoming mail messages, and then tell Mail to move any mail that matches that criteria to a specified mailbox. Easy enough. Mary
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Breesok #1 (permalink)
Member Since: May 04, 2009 Posts: 9	05-04-2009, 03:23 PM Due to a high volume of email, I LOVE the idea of Smart Mailboxes. I started using them recently; however discovered that when I deleted SOME of the items from my inbox, they would also delete from my Smart Mailbox. I got so nervous about relying on it, that I moved everything into manual mailboxes again (ugh). I'd like to set up Smart Mailboxes again to manage my mail, but I don't know what I did wrong to make this occur. I'm not a spaz, but what did I do wrong? Anyone??? Thanks.
	QUOTE Thanks

Collin Bl #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 07, 2009 Location: Napier NZ Posts: 3,273 Mac Specs: 27 iMac i5, 2.4 C2D MBP & iMac 20, 1TB dual TC, AppleTV, iPh4	05-31-2009, 07:27 PM You can make a New Mailbox and drag appropriate mail to that so that it will be out of your inbox but still available should you need to go in there looking for it. Smart Mailbox is really only a sorting device and as Skybolt suggests you can make a rule to put all incoming per rule into the New Mailbox so that it does not show up in the Inbox
	QUOTE Thanks

Breesok #5 (permalink)
Member Since: May 04, 2009 Posts: 9	05-31-2009, 07:30 PM I set a Rule in my Mail app Preferences to have all emails from a spammer automatically deleted. A couple of hours later, I was working and I heard my New Mail alarm, but when I checked my email, there was nothing - no indicator that an email of any kind had arrived in any folder, including the Trash. I'm okay if this is the way the Rule works, but I just wanted to confirm whether the Delete instruction will delete a message without a trace of it arriving, but will sound the alarm to let you know that it's working... Thanking you in advance for your reply.
	QUOTE Thanks

Breesok #6 (permalink)
Member Since: May 04, 2009 Posts: 9	05-31-2009, 07:39 PM I like this... thanks to you as well! I just get soooo tired of routing through my inbox after I open a message, searching for it - even if I sort by date or alpha... I am definitely going to do this!
	QUOTE Thanks

Collin Bl #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 07, 2009 Location: Napier NZ Posts: 3,273 Mac Specs: 27 iMac i5, 2.4 C2D MBP & iMac 20, 1TB dual TC, AppleTV, iPh4	05-31-2009, 07:40 PM Have a look at my rule here iMac - Mail 2.1.3 - Mac-Forums.com - that gives a weeks grace to have a look in Trash for any new before they are deleted automatically. Once they are moved out of Trash by delete i guess they may be recoverable on the ISPs server depending on how you have that set up.
	QUOTE Thanks

Breesok #8 (permalink)
Member Since: May 04, 2009 Posts: 9	05-31-2009, 08:05 PM I set a Rule in my Mail app Preferences to have all emails from a spammer automatically deleted. A couple of hours later, I was working and I heard my New Mail alarm, but when I checked my email, there was nothing - no indicator that an email of any kind had arrived in any folder, including the Trash. I'm okay if this is the way the Rule works, but I just wanted to confirm whether the Delete instruction will delete a message without a trace of it arriving, but will sound the alarm to let you know that it's working... Thanking you in advance for your reply.
	QUOTE Thanks

Breesok #10 (permalink)
Member Since: May 04, 2009 Posts: 9	06-01-2009, 11:26 PM Thanks... but I'm not sure why this happened... twice! I'll try again.
	QUOTE Thanks

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