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    Back It Up Part 1
    No matter how reliable your Mac has been, you need a plan for backing up your data. At some point a hard drive will fail, you'll delete an important file or just do something stupid as I did recently. When that happens you'll be glad you had a backup. Lets look at some of the things you need to consider in developing an effective backup strategy. In the second part of the series we'll look at some of the tools available for backing up your Mac.

    Archive, Backup, or Clone

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    Do you think you or someone could make a post of important files on a Mac that everyone should have and should never delete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macuser1232 View Post
    Do you think you or someone could make a post of important files on a Mac that everyone should have and should never delete?
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    It might take a few of us put something like that together but it's an interesting idea. The files are mostly the same among recent versions of OS X but there are some differences in files and location.

    Here's a couple of things that might help in the meantime:
    1. There is a System folder at the root level of your hard drive don't remove a file from there unless you know exactly why it needs to be removed. The same goes for the Library folder inside there.

    2. There is a Library folder inside your user folder (it's hidden in Lion) you won't need to mess with that often either. If you delete a program and preferences are left behind don't worry about them. They don't generally take up much space or cause problems

    3. If Apple places a program (iTunes, iPhoto, etc) in the Applications folder don't move it somewhere else. Once they are moved Software Update cannot update cannot update them till they are put back in their expected places.
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    To be simple: don't move or touch anything outside of your home (user) folder. You'll also want to be very careful messing around in the user Library folder (this is why it's hidden by default).
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    yeah not too long ago i was messing with my python folder and may have deleted an old version of it but i think i may be fine cause I haven't had any problems with it.

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    It depends on what version of Python you deleted. If you deleted the system Python (/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework), you may run into troubles down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    It depends on what version of Python you deleted. If you deleted the system Python (/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework), you may run into troubles down the line.
    We'll currently in (/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework) I have versions 2.6, 2.7, and 3.2. But in (/Library/Python.Framework/Versions) I have 2.7, 3.0, and 3.2.

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    I'm not sure why you have Python3 in your System folder - Apple hasn't moved to Python3 yet. Did you symlink the /Library version to /System/Library?

    Well, regardless, you haven't deleted them and if you haven't encountered any errors, you might be okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    I'm not sure why you have Python3 in your System folder - Apple hasn't moved to Python3 yet. Did you symlink the /Library version to /System/Library?

    Well, regardless, you haven't deleted them and if you haven't encountered any errors, you might be okay.
    Ya I manually downloaded these python versions. Plus everyone with Mac's have encountered problems with 3.0 and 3.2 Python IDLE. So would it be ok if I deleted the 3 versions? And how would you symlink?

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    The answer to that depends on whether or not you need Python 3. Do you need either of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    The answer to that depends on whether or not you need Python 3. Do you need either of them?

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    no i just use 2.7

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    Great Article - and timely. My entire state seems to be on fire
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    There are many structures lost to 2 fires - one north near Fort Collins and one in Colorado Springs.

    I think one of the key pieces is off site backup. As these fires show - you could be made to evacuate in an instant. You may not have time to even grab your stuff. The online backup is good - if you have the bandwidth to upload that much stuff. It doesn't have to be a pure - backup site like Mozy either. For example - I have a flickr pro account for $25/year - and upload all pictures to Flickr. (I bought an Eye-Fi card which makes it even easier to upload everything to Flickr). I keep most documents in Dropbox so they are always on the cloud and on every device I use.

    Another way to backup offsite - is other disks. I keep a USB disk onsite at my work. When I go to the office - I attach it to my computer and run a backup. It isn't as up to date as my home backup but losing a month is better than losing everything. My buddy and I exchange Hard Drives with Pictures on them as another backup. I have a set of his pictures and I give him a set of mine - and we trade disks every now and then and update them.

    I've mentioned this before - but another thing you could do is run a raid server - and swap disks periodically. You could put the disks in a safe deposit box or somewhere else off site.

    Independent of digital data - another good thing to do is make photocopies of your most important documents and send them to someone you trust. (Birth Certificates, titles, stocks, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanLasston View Post
    Great Article - and timely. My entire state seems to be on fire
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    There are many structures lost to 2 fires - one north near Fort Collins and one in Colorado Springs.

    I think one of the key pieces is off site backup. As these fires show - you could be made to evacuate in an instant. You may not have time to even grab your stuff. The online backup is good - if you have the bandwidth to upload that much stuff. It doesn't have to be a pure - backup site like Mozy either. For example - I have a flickr pro account for $25/year - and upload all pictures to Flickr. (I bought an Eye-Fi card which makes it even easier to upload everything to Flickr). I keep most documents in Dropbox so they are always on the cloud and on every device I use.

    Another way to backup offsite - is other disks. I keep a USB disk onsite at my work. When I go to the office - I attach it to my computer and run a backup. It isn't as up to date as my home backup but losing a month is better than losing everything. My buddy and I exchange Hard Drives with Pictures on them as another backup. I have a set of his pictures and I give him a set of mine - and we trade disks every now and then and update them.

    I've mentioned this before - but another thing you could do is run a raid server - and swap disks periodically. You could put the disks in a safe deposit box or somewhere else off site.

    Independent of digital data - another good thing to do is make photocopies of your most important documents and send them to someone you trust. (Birth Certificates, titles, stocks, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    The answer to that depends on whether or not you need Python 3. Do you need either of them?

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    anyway since i only use 2.7 can i delete all the other versions that are under my (/System) and (/Library) folders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanLasston View Post
    Great Article - and timely. My entire state seems to be on fire
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    First to the important stuff. Until I read your post I had forgotten you were in Colorado. Stay safe.

    Glad you enjoyed the article Offsite backup is important. I did not spend a lot of time on the online options due to limited experience with them. Member V6Pony was able to provide some helpful comments via PM.

    I like the idea of a RAID for that. haven't played with RAID though I may soon given the number of drive problems. Maybe you should write about the ins and outs of RAIDs in the near future. Some of the descriptions I've read have been either poor or obviously not aimed at the home user.
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