02-21-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by iggibar

Is it too much to ask for to revert o the previous style of the spacing?

I'd also like to see the old style of spacing. I'm using Safari and have no knowledge of the "altering" you guys discussed earlier. I'd just like to see it more stream-lined and less "clunky". It feels like a child's version of a website. IDK, that's just the best way I can describe my impression of the new look.

02-24-2012, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by lifeisabeach

That's how it looks in the old forum skin, which I'm using. The new forum skin, which I'm double-checking in another browser, has hypertext links as red, the way vansmith describes.

That's interesting. I'd check just to see it, but for the last week I haven't had to delete a cookie to load this site, so I'm not messing with it.

02-27-2012, 01:23 PM

Hey You guys! I'm new at this forum.. I was wondering on how do you change your profile picture on MacForums? Is it only for senior or staff members? Or does it work on a point system that you gotta have a certain level of points to change your profile picture? Thanx every one!

02-27-2012, 01:32 PM

Go to your User CP > Edit Avatar.

03-03-2012, 03:30 PM

I'm sure you've spent countless hours on making improvements to this forum.

But to be blunt, I absolutely hate it.

I feel like I'm using one of those phones for old people where the phone only has a number pad and the buttons are one inch squared.

Not that my contributions on this site are monumental, but a a user I find myself forcing myself back, versus wanting to participate.

03-03-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by MacsWork

I'm sure you've spent countless hours on making improvements to this forum.

But to be blunt, I absolutely hate it.

I feel like I'm using one of those phones for old people where the phone only has a number pad and the buttons are one inch squared.

Not that my contributions on this site are monumental, but a a user I find myself forcing myself back, versus wanting to participate.

I don't think you've given it enough of a chance.

I felt the same way at first, but after a few days, it was like second nature.

03-03-2012, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by MacsWork

I'm sure you've spent countless hours on making improvements to this forum.

But to be blunt, I absolutely hate it.

I feel like I'm using one of those phones for old people where the phone only has a number pad and the buttons are one inch squared.

Not that my contributions on this site are monumental, but a a user I find myself forcing myself back, versus wanting to participate.

Just shy of 2K of posts is no small contribution, can you not look beyond the aesthetic and get involved again?

03-04-2012, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by MacsWork

I'm sure you've spent countless hours on making improvements to this forum.

But to be blunt, I absolutely hate it.

I feel like I'm using one of those phones for old people where the phone only has a number pad and the buttons are one inch squared.

Not that my contributions on this site are monumental, but a a user I find myself forcing myself back, versus wanting to participate.

Doy...I'll just use the previous version of the site. Much better.

03-04-2012, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by MacsWork

Doy...I'll just use the previous version of the site. Much better.

But ultimately, that will go away at some point. Might as well get used to it now.

It's really not that significant of a difference. You just have to give it some time.

03-04-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by cwa107

But ultimately, that will go away at some point. Might as well get used to it now.

Bummer

It's really not that significant of a difference. You just have to give it some time.

I'll agree to disagree. I've used it for a month. I doubt more time will change my mind. With all change you're gonna have pros and cons. I just don't see the pros. Since most everything I've noticed is aesthetic, and not functionality as I don't belong to any groups, or follow any threads. So if there is more function, it's beyond my usage. I do feel like I get as much out as I put in, which is why I gave my two ¢ to begin with. And that's OK with me.


No worries.

03-04-2012, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by cwa107

But ultimately, that will go away at some point. Might as well get used to it now.

It's really not that significant of a difference. You just have to give it some time.

Um… yes it is that significant a difference. The high contrast alone hurts my eyes. Literally. Aesthetically, there's some good ideas, but it's far from polished. I won't rehash my objections to the new look, but I will have to say that if the old skin goes away, barring any corrections of some of the more egregious issues with the new look, I''ll be out too. The high contrast alone is simply intolerable for me.

I get that you guys want to freshen the look of the site up some, but quite frankly it was highly functional and pleasant as it was. I don't get the whole "it looks too 90's", and furthermore don't get how the new look is supposed to be more modern. The old skin was most certainly a very professional job, while the new skin is quite amateurish. I hate to be so blunt, and I certainly don't expect anything to change to suit me, but being silent isn't going to get any attention either. I'd be curious to see what exactly was the inspiration for the changes. There are no websites, blogs, or forums that I frequent that even remotely look like this new skin.

03-04-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by lifeisabeach

Um… yes it is that significant a difference. The high contrast alone hurts my eyes. Literally. Aesthetically, there's some good ideas, but it's far from polished. I won't rehash my objections to the new look, but I will have to say that if the old skin goes away, barring any corrections of some of the more egregious issues with the new look, I''ll be out too. The high contrast alone is simply intolerable for me.

Black on white is kind of a common theme - just off the top of my head, Mail both on OS X and iOS uses that theme, let alone a large majority of blogs and news sites.

Yes, I think it's kind of shocking when you're used to looking at the forum one way for many years. And to be honest, I found it annoying at first... but after a few days, it seemed pretty normal to me.

I get that you guys want to freshen the look of the site up some, but quite frankly it was highly functional and pleasant as it was. I don't get the whole "it looks too 90's", and furthermore don't get how the new look is supposed to be more modern. The old skin was most certainly a very professional job, while the new skin is quite amateurish. I hate to be so blunt, and I certainly don't expect anything to change to suit me, but being silent isn't going to get any attention either. I'd be curious to see what exactly was the inspiration for the changes. There are no websites, blogs, or forums that I frequent that even remotely look like this new skin.

I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I do think it looks fresh and modern. Yes, there are a few lipstick and mascara issues that have yet to be addressed, but I think it's made good progress since it was introduced.

I'm really surprised that you find it that appalling. The basic theme of grays/whites/blacks and reds are a common theme to both the old and the new skins. Yes, there's some differences in formatting and the text is black on white, but to my eyes, it's not that dramatic.

Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative and I'm sorry you feel this way - I was just hoping that you'd given it a chance before dismissing it.

03-04-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by cwa107

Black on white is kind of a common theme - just off the top of my head, Mail both on OS X and iOS uses that theme, let alone a large majority of blogs and news sites.

You can't really compare to those. In Mail, you are reading one message at a time. Here, a thread has replies stacked on top of each other. On blogs and new sites, you generally are reading one article at a time on a page, rather than on top of each other. I suppose there are exceptions, but the ones I frequent have more colors and textures to them. This site right now is downright boring.

Oh, and Mail does make use of a blue background in the pane for the mailboxes, along with softer font colors. If it was black-on-white like the list of messages, it would look hideous.

I'm really surprised that you find it that appalling. The basic theme of grays/whites/blacks and reds are a common theme to both the old and the new skins. Yes, there's some differences in formatting and the text is black on white, but to my eyes, it's not that dramatic.

Really it's a combination of element changes here that's making it harder to read, not simply the high contrast. The gaps between the lines are huge now, which makes the white background pop out that much more. The reds are way overkill now. The red fonts are just too much, at least as bright as they are. A darker maroon wouldn't be so bad perhaps. The red titlebars are now oversized and disproportionate to the text inside them. And there was actually a lot of use of blue in the old theme that is mostly gone. In fact, there were several soft shades of blue used everywhere. It helped break up the page and differentiate different elements in a page. The white-floating-on-white that's going on now is pretty awful. Honestly now… can you point me to any site that does it like that? If you want a 3D-ish look like that, you need something more to add to the depth perception. Say… here's an idea I just had… why not white floating on blue, like clouds on the sky? It'd sorta tie in to Apple's iCloud thing in a way, and bring back in the blues from the old theme.

Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative and I'm sorry you feel this way - I was just hoping that you'd given it a chance before dismissing it.

Oh you aren't being argumentative. And I have tried to give the new look a chance, but it really is difficult to read. There are a lot of GREAT ideas… really there are, but the execution is just sloppy IMO. The site has come along a bit better than the first time I saw the preview, or at least it seems it has, but it still needs a lot of polishing.

03-13-2012, 08:03 PM

Hi everyone,
First, thank you for making this thread!! FYI- I happen to be a techie myself, (nearly 18 years of technical support at Cisco.) I have searched all over mac-forums, even tried goodsearch.com, as well as searching this thread once I found it.

I cannot figure out how to post a new thread. (I even did "contact us", but I never heard back.)

Thanks!!
Shannon

03-13-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by shannongavin

Hi everyone,
First, thank you for making this thread!! FYI- I happen to be a techie myself, (nearly 18 years of technical support at Cisco.) I have searched all over mac-forums, even tried goodsearch.com, as well as searching this thread once I found it.

I cannot figure out how to post a new thread. (I even did "contact us", but I never heard back.)

Thanks!!
Shannon

The automated response that you received after sending a 'Contact Us' inquiry has instructions for creating a new thread (assuming you supplied a valid email address during the process).