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Not sure that anyone can answer this here. It is not necessarily a "Mac" question but a music question. My wife is HUGE into the Dave Matthews Band. DMB allows you to record their concerts live. They are so ok with it that they allow you to plug into the sound board directly to record. My question is, what is it exactly you would need to plug into the sound board to record? Again not Mac related but I am sure there are some music guru's here that might have the answer. Thanks!
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Not sure that anyone can answer this here. It is not necessarily a "Mac" question but a music question. My wife is HUGE into the Dave Matthews Band. DMB allows you to record their concerts live. They are so ok with it that they allow you to plug into the sound board directly to record. My question is, what is it exactly you would need to plug into the sound board to record? Again not Mac related but I am sure there are some music guru's here that might have the answer. Thanks!
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This is how I do it.

1. Record the outs from the board onto an audio deck.
2. Put a video camera in the back of the room.
3. Mix them together in Final Cut Express.

You get an almost perfect live album sound.

The sound from the board is real high and the camera sounds like a bootleg. But by mixing the two together, you get this really nice sound.
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There are two ways to do it, one with your computer at the concert ( and who wants to lug that around, never mind the risk of damage), and one without, which follows:
1. A cassette recorder WON'T give you good sound quality. Believe it or not, take your VHS machine, and hook up the L and R output of the board ( make sure it's the Line Output !! not the output to the speakers !! ) to the L and R audio input RCA plug on the back of your VHS. Use a good tape, and record in Short Play if you also have Long Play - Short play is like using 7 1/2 ips versus 3 3/4 on an old reel-to-reel recorder. Because of helican scanning, the sound recording quality is near-CD ! Just set the VHS going and with a 3 hour tape....
2. At home, unless you or someone is handy with soldering plugs, you will probably have to get a local hi-fi store to make up a connecting cable, with RCA audio plugs one end, to fit into the VHS; and at the other, have the cable going into the single (stereo) audio plug that fits into the audio input hole on your Mac.
3. You need a brilliant piece of software called SoundStudio which I think is the easiest to use, the best interface, and best features. You would just open this and Click a button to start a new recording, and start your VHS playing back the tape. Watch the audio input meter of the software for a while, particularly loud passages in the music, and adjust the volume slide of the software to make sure, as the volume fluctuates, that it doesn't 'go into the red'. When you're happy -(and it's best to slightly underestimate ie have the volume a bit lower than you think in case at some point there is a music peak), close and don't Save that recording, and start again, this time leaving it run for about 30 mins. Stop the VHS and the software and save to hard drive.
4. Rewind the tape the equivalent of a song's length, and repeat the procedure. (You may not be able to monitor the sound as it is recording, so that you may stop the software mid-song. By going back, you get a clean recording of that song, beginning and end. (By having the music to be edited in 30 min chunks, it's far easier to navigate and work with I think. However, if you want, just let it rip from beginning to end and then go to work on it:
The beauty of SoundStudio is that when you play it back, you will see if the visual representation of the sound wave goes above the upper line, indicating distortion. Because you recorded at a lower level, it shouldn't. But now, you can amplify any track by varying amounts, check if it stays within the lines, or Undo and try again. This will maximize the volume level of the final recording on a CD. You can edit out any 'waste' before the concert starts, and Cut out any/all the recorded sound/chatter/interrruptions etc between songs. If you want them in different order, you could cut and paste them into a new File in the order you want; or if you just want to omit one or more songs, just highlight each by dragging across from beginning to end, and use Cut command.
This will make a CD that can be copied for any family and friends. But as you can see, if you just take the VHS tape and play it normally through a Surround Sound system, obviously, no video to the TV screen, but you will get the sound, the whole lot, pauses, interruptions, applause etc but in great high fidelity.If you decide to do this, and need further help, let me know.

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Sorry - a duplicate - did I press the Save button twice?

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