New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
Movies and Video For people making movies and editing video with their Mac.

imovie vs Final cut


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
jerickson

 
Member Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posts: 4
jerickson is on a distinguished road

jerickson is offline
I am new to this forum-- glad I found it!

I recently began implementing video into my marketing- and am using imovie- it is awesome to work with; however, when I am finalizing video, it takes an hour to finalize a 3 minute video.

Does "Final Cut" take as long and is it worth the money?

My Macbook pro is a month old, so I know it isn't the speed of the computer- wondering if this is a imovie issue?

Look forward to learning more on this forum- and contributing when I can!

Jesse
QUOTE Thanks
codda

 
Member Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posts: 472
codda is a jewel in the roughcodda is a jewel in the rough
Mac Specs: 21.5 iMac 3.06 ghz 12gb ram 500g HD iPad 2 16G

codda is offline
Hmmm...I use iMovie quite a bit...and a 3 min. clip would usually take between 6 - 9 minutes...in HD. I don't know what your source files are or what your rendering settings are...That rendition time is definitely alarmingly long...it is not typical of iMovie...
QUOTE Thanks
jerickson

 
Member Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posts: 4
jerickson is on a distinguished road

jerickson is offline
thanks for the response... I will have to look into the source files - not sure what you mean but will look it up!
QUOTE Thanks
SafeHarbor

 
SafeHarbor's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 15, 2011
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 32
SafeHarbor is on a distinguished road

SafeHarbor is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerickson View Post
I am new to this forum-- glad I found it!

I recently began implementing video into my marketing- and am using imovie- it is awesome to work with; however, when I am finalizing video, it takes an hour to finalize a 3 minute video.

Does "Final Cut" take as long and is it worth the money?

My Macbook pro is a month old, so I know it isn't the speed of the computer- wondering if this is a imovie issue?

Look forward to learning more on this forum- and contributing when I can!

Jesse
It really depends on your application. If all you are doing is putting together a few short videos here and there for youtube uploads, then I would stick with iMovie. It's hard to judge whether or not Final Cut would be "worth the money" for you without knowing exactly how much and what kind of editing you are doing. I will say that it is definitely more flexible, and more powerful for that matter.

Regarding your issue, it definitely should not be taking that long for a three minute video. I agree with codda in that source files and settings would be helpful to know.
QUOTE Thanks
xstep

 
xstep's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 25, 2005
Location: On the road
Posts: 3,231
xstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to all
Mac Specs: 2011 MBP, i7, 16GB RAM, MBP 2.16Ghz Core Duo, 2GB ram, Dual 867Mhz MDD, 1.75GB ram, ATI 9800 Pro vid

xstep is offline
OP, you need to mention what the inputs are; HD, pictures and types & sizes. Then what is your output choices from the Share menu? Also, what specific model is your MBP? Does it have a discrete GPU? Are you running other CPU intensive applications at the time of the export?

CameraTime - Time lapse photography for novice and advanced users.

When asking questions, post the version of your software. You'll receive better answers.

Please post your results to the thread as it is good feedback.
QUOTE Thanks
beenatam

 
Member Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posts: 7
beenatam is on a distinguished road

beenatam is offline
Mac is def. the best platform. As far as recreational short videos, imovie creates some relatively slick films. That being said, you are very limited with customization. I.e. it's so basic that you will feel constrained, but will be able to make decent looking movies.
QUOTE Thanks
tessando

 
Member Since: Mar 01, 2011
Posts: 6
tessando is on a distinguished road

tessando is offline
Just to weigh in really quick... I agree with everyone here that iMovie is good for quick and not very complex movies. In fact, it even works great for YouTube (as mentioned).

Final Cut is a professional program that (in my opinion) isn't very intuitive, however, it IS very robust and is what folks getting Media Arts degrees in college use... If you can take the time to learn it, it's definitely a GREAT skill to have.
QUOTE Thanks
jkr77

 
jkr77's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 04, 2011
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 15
jkr77 will become famous soon enough
Mac Specs: iMac 27" i7 quad core, 8GB, 2TBHD, ATI 5750

jkr77 is offline
That rendering time seems quite off IMO. Even if you were doing full HD for 3 min with overlays and effects, an hour is not close to being right so there has to be some specific parameters you have set or that the source video has set that is accounting for the conversion time. Really not sure without knowing more, but unless you are really taxing your CPU with other stuff at time of Finalizing, it should be relatively painless to do a 3 minute movie.

iMac 27" i7 quad core / 8GB RAM / 2TB HD / 5750 ATI
QUOTE Thanks
cvincent

 
Member Since: Mar 18, 2011
Posts: 2
cvincent is on a distinguished road

cvincent is offline
using i movie11
june 2010 15 in macbook pro

panasonic hdc tm60 avchd
set to hg1920 which i know now is too high and i will turn the camera down

but i also am having 1 hour or longer times to convert/export 5 min videos

at this point i plan to get final cut express, hoping this is a stronger program,faster etc

i do not have any thing but mail and maybe safari open when i try to do anything with imovie so do not think that is an issue

any input on this would be great
i am pretty sick of imovie and the issues i am having
but dont want to waste 200 if it is not going to solve my problems

also will i be able to set fce up where when i plug in the camera it automatically opens and will ask me to import/log into fce, bypassing imovie altogether?

thanks for any help
QUOTE Thanks
xstep

 
xstep's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 25, 2005
Location: On the road
Posts: 3,231
xstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to all
Mac Specs: 2011 MBP, i7, 16GB RAM, MBP 2.16Ghz Core Duo, 2GB ram, Dual 867Mhz MDD, 1.75GB ram, ATI 9800 Pro vid

xstep is offline
cvincent, don't assume FC can fix your problem. It isn't likely.

What is the input file details? Looks like 1920x1080 AVCHD which converts on import. Do you have a lot of effect/titles/transitions in your project? Is the iMovie 'Video Standard' preference set to the correct one for your area & camera?

What are the export details? A preset, 1920x1080 HD? What export codec are you using and data rates for both the video and audio?

Does you MBP have a discrete GPU?

Are you running off of the internal drive only?

A side note. If you've had Safari open a very long time or have many web pages open, it can take up a lot of memory. This can cause memory swapping when working with another application that needs more memory than is available and that can slow things down.

I don't know the answer to your last question.

CameraTime - Time lapse photography for novice and advanced users.

When asking questions, post the version of your software. You'll receive better answers.

Please post your results to the thread as it is good feedback.
QUOTE Thanks
cvincent

 
Member Since: Mar 18, 2011
Posts: 2
cvincent is on a distinguished road

cvincent is offline
hmm, i dont know the answers to all these questions

not sure about the gpu on the laptop, it is the standard core i5 i think

i do have safari open almost all the time and all day, so i can close that

i went ahead and ordered fce, so will load that and before i do anything with the camera i am going to research and make sure i have all the settings correct for this camera and fce
i dont remember if it ask me to set settings when i first plugged it into imovie
maybe that was the problem, the genius bar did not mention that

i see that on several forums, so will make sure i pay major attention to the settings this time

i also removed and reloaded imovie, a thing popped up saying i needed to do that for quicktime, so not sure if that was an issue or not

they did a lot of stuff with my computer at apple working on this and i dont remember seeing any pop ups before they did that, but who knows
maybe i movie was never right

thanks for all your suggestions, etc
QUOTE Thanks
xstep

 
xstep's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 25, 2005
Location: On the road
Posts: 3,231
xstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to allxstep is a name known to all
Mac Specs: 2011 MBP, i7, 16GB RAM, MBP 2.16Ghz Core Duo, 2GB ram, Dual 867Mhz MDD, 1.75GB ram, ATI 9800 Pro vid

xstep is offline
You could try a QuickTime export. See a guide I wrote about that. It think the thing to pay attention to is data rate and codec to use. I'd try the H.264 codec with a data rate of say 1500. If the image looks bad, up the data rate.

CameraTime - Time lapse photography for novice and advanced users.

When asking questions, post the version of your software. You'll receive better answers.

Please post your results to the thread as it is good feedback.
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« Burn for Mac, authoring error.. | Old final cut express HD + brand new macbook? »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Final Cut Pro -v- Final Cut Express MXMacGrl18 Movies and Video 2 07-19-2008 11:49 PM
Moving clips from Final Cut 3 to Final Cut 4 Yitschaq Movies and Video 4 07-16-2008 12:06 PM
using imovie project in Final Cut Express setanta5 Movies and Video 0 04-12-2007 09:35 AM
FINAL CUT PRO - Upgrading PowerBookG4 OS X - Apps and Games 6 09-15-2005 01:44 AM
imovie, idvd, final cut input question justin1083 Movies and Video 7 06-13-2005 08:57 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:35 PM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?