01-25-2007, 01:06 PM

I have heard that the battery cannot be replaced. If this is true, it borders on violating an "implied" product warranty in my way of thinking. It would be akin to Microsoft selling Windows for all these years. You know, - how can a Company put a product on the Market that doesn't work 30% to 40% of the time in the basic way it was intended.

If the battery cannot be replaced, are there ways around this? If not, it is indeed shameful of Apple to market it in this manner - and if this goes for the iPhone, it is even more shameful!

01-25-2007, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by farmcock

I have heard that the battery cannot be replaced.

You heard wrong

Originally Posted by Apple

Question: Can I get the battery replaced?
Answer: Yes. All models of iPod are covered by the Out of Warranty Battery Program. See the iPod battery service FAQ.

01-25-2007, 01:25 PM

I sold my first iPod to a friend, it was a 15gb 3rd gen ipod. It still works fine, although the bettery is noticeably weaker than when it was new. But that doesn't really matter, as he uses it in his truck most of the time, and can just plug in the charger.

01-25-2007, 02:15 PM

I have my iPod 4G hooked up to some speakers and have it running for as long as I'm awake almosy everyday for the past 18 months and have no problems with battery power when i take it out with me

01-25-2007, 02:34 PM

nmmessage

01-25-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by farmcock

I have heard that the battery cannot be replaced. If this is true, it borders on violating an "implied" product warranty in my way of thinking. It would be akin to Microsoft selling Windows for all these years. You know, - how can a Company put a product on the Market that doesn't work 30% to 40% of the time in the basic way it was intended.

If the battery cannot be replaced, are there ways around this? If not, it is indeed shameful of Apple to market it in this manner - and if this goes for the iPhone, it is even more shameful!

Two quick points (kinda been covered in previous posts). The iPOD battery is replaceable and this can be done cheaply and easily. It's a bit of a pain opening the thing, although some online battery sellers give you a kit to do this without damaging your machine. I replaced the battery in my 3 year old iPOD and it has a new lease of life, with a 10 hour battery that doesn't die from one day to the next.

2nd point is that Apple have a habit pf making their consumer products difficult to maintain (unlike, say, the Mac Pro which is designed to be easy to play with). The reason is probably partly to stop people upgrading and fixing them alone, but also a nod to design. If the iPOD had a slide open back like a cell phone, people would be changing the batteries, the HDD and goodness knows what else and this would probably mean some design compromises.

As with anything, there are always ways around this.

01-25-2007, 07:31 PM

Modded ipods eh? interesting....

01-25-2007, 09:20 PM

If you bought AppleCare with your iPod 4G and up I believe, it covers replacing the battery. The Apple Sales Rep on the phone told me that after I ordered my U2 iPod even though I was intending on getting it anyway. Luckily my battery is still good so I haven't needed to take them up on that option yet.

01-26-2007, 09:05 AM

using a automobile (cig lighter) charger is a no no. It produces a fast charge that will not last as long and will cause the battery to deteriorate faster over time. Trickle charge from the dock connector is best.

01-26-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by farmcock

using a automobile (cig lighter) charger is a no no. It produces a fast charge that will not last as long and will cause the battery to deteriorate faster over time. Trickle charge from the dock connector is best.

What source did you get that from? I have a Belkin car charger and I used it on my 3G iPod for a couple of years before the HD went south. I use the same charger on my 5G now. I have never had any issue with the battery losing a charge any faster or deteriorating on either iPod. The 3G still kept a charge for quite a few hours as does my 5G.

I am not sure where you have been getting your information from, but it doesn't sound very reliable. :black:

01-26-2007, 02:07 PM

One of the I.T. guys I work with told me that. He said it is because the car charger is coming off a 12 volt charge (car battery). This seems to be confirmed by others I have talked to. -- maybe your Belkin accounts for this voltage conversion a little better than most car chargers - I don't know, but it sounded like good advice to me.

I don't much like the idea of charging an expensive iPod on a car charger anyway. More power to you. No pun intended.

01-26-2007, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Zoolook

2nd point is that Apple have a habit pf making their consumer products difficult to maintain (unlike, say, the Mac Pro which is designed to be easy to play with). The reason is probably partly to stop people upgrading and fixing them alone, but also a nod to design. If the iPOD had a slide open back like a cell phone, people would be changing the batteries, the HDD and goodness knows what else and this would probably mean some design compromises.

As with anything, there are always ways around this.

Thanks for this point of view - had not thought of this before.

01-26-2007, 05:25 PM

I replaced the battery in my Gen 1 iPod 2 or 3 years ago and still use it on a regular basis. The life span really depends on you.

01-26-2007, 05:27 PM

my ipod mini which i got august 2005 stills works like new.

01-29-2007, 05:02 PM

I know that the whole idea of fast charge vs trickle charge is relavent to lead acid batteries. Fast charging causes the battery to become sulfated. Also it generates alot of heat. I'm not sure about li-ion batteries, but i suspect it will be the same. the heat will build up on a fast charge alot faster, also the ipod isnt vented so the heat will stay close to the battery, and heat isnt any batteries friend... so trickle charging is prolly best!:headphone