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Look at whats on the screen on this ipod nano http://applexnet.com/images/ipodnano/ipn5.jpg

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Well, the Nanos are pretty much just USB flash drives....more or less.
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Well, the Nanos are pretty much just USB flash drives....more or less.
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USB 2.0 is technically just as fast as FW anyhow... So I don't see the harm..

Edit: I did a little hunting and it looks like standard speed on 2.0 is actually just 12Mbps... Am I reading this right?

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USB 2.0 is technically just as fast as FW anyhow... So I don't see the harm.
but realistically it isnt

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especially not firewire 800
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i read somewhere that usb2.0 is faster than firewire, but usb 2.0 doesn't transfer at a constant rate like firewire. Therefore firewire would probably be faster during a larger transfer. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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USB 2.0 is technically just as fast as FW anyhow... So I don't see the harm..

Edit: I did a little hunting and it looks like standard speed on 2.0 is actually just 12Mbps... Am I reading this right?
USB 2.0 can have speeds up to 480Mbps...but it is not a constant transfer speed...it happens in bursts here and there. It can go as low as 12Mbps.

FireWire is a constant 400Mbps transfer speed.

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USB 2.0 is technically just as fast as FW anyhow... So I don't see the harm..

Edit: I did a little hunting and it looks like standard speed on 2.0 is actually just 12Mbps... Am I reading this right?
No, USB theoretical through put is 12 Mbps, USB 2.0 has a theoretical throughput of 480 Mbps. I say theoretical because neither will ever achieve this in reality.

Firewire has a theoretical throughput of only 400 Mbps but is still faster than USB 2.0 for sustained file transfers.

I am sort of amazed, but then to shove everything into such a small shell I guess Apple had to make some hard choices.
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i read somewhere that usb2.0 is faster than firewire, but usb 2.0 doesn't transfer at a constant rate like firewire. Therefore firewire would probably be faster during a larger transfer. Correct me if i'm wrong.
no need to correct you, this is correct, the firewire is faster for a large file transfer, but USB 2.0 is faster for smaller file trasnfers such as 1 song or 10 songs, but not faster when it is 100 songs or 10000 songs.

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More importantly, many older Macs have FireWire but not USB2. So Apple is, effectively, forcing those users to transfer songs at USB1.1 speeds...about 35 times slower. (Same applies to the iPod Shuffle, for that matter.)

Even for those of us with USB2 Macs, FireWire is almost always faster in the real world, even for the little things. The only thing USB2 has going for it is a lower cost to implement.
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great as i have a older PB looks like i cant really get a nano

4Gb at 11MBps anyone????
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great as i have a older PB looks like i cant really get a nano

4Gb at 11MBps anyone????
Does your older PB have a PCMCIA slot? If so you could get a USB 2.0 card. If not then it would be S L O W!

I am sort of sad there is no Firewire chip in the Nano. I know with the small size they had to leave a few things out, but for users of older Macs it's going to be a pain. I bet with Firewire and the Flash Ram it would fly! Oh well. It's a nice unit for sure. I hope Apple in the future does not totally eliminate Firewire since for external drives and video cams it's much better and faster.
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great as i have a older PB looks like i cant really get a nano

4Gb at 11MBps anyone????

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does any one think that that could just be older and they fixed it to where it is FW, i dont think that MR. Jobs would do that to us
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On the Apple Canada site the usb cord is listed as an accessory but not a fw cord...
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