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    Ipod classic down 9gb out of the box?
    So I recently broke down and bought my first ipod. Got the 120gb classic and I like it a lot. My main concern is that there is a lot of missing room out of the box.

    Why do I only have 111gb capacity? What is taking up the other 9gb before I put anything on it?

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    this is the formatted space (coud be wrong) that holds the iPod OS and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morty192 View Post
    this is the formatted space (coud be wrong) that holds the iPod OS and the like.
    If thats the case, does that mean if I bought the 16gb ipod then I would have only half the amount of space left? Or no space with the 8gb ipod?

    Doesnt make sense to me.

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    wow. I don't think the iPod OS takes up that much space (or at least it shouldn't). I'd recommend taking it to a geek bar and asking someone about it.
    On my iPod touch it only takes up about 50MBs, I don't really think it would take 8 or so gigs though. Maybe it came with some apps or something? You might want to check.

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    It's the same reason why my 320GB macbok drive is really only 293GB of useable space. People live in a decimal world, but computers live in a binary world. So 120GB is 1,073,741,824 x 120 not 1,000,000,000 x 120. This result in only about 93% of the size on the box for useable space. A 120 GB ipod has about 111.7GB space for your mp3's.

    1,073,741,824

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    Quote Originally Posted by wytwolf View Post
    It's the same reason why my 320GB macbok drive is really only 293GB of useable space. People live in a decimal world, but computers live in a binary world. So 120GB is 1,073,741,824 x 120 not 1,000,000,000 x 120. This result in only about 93% of the size on the box for useable space. A 120 GB ipod has about 111.7GB space for your mp3's.

    1,073,741,824
    Interesting. Still confused but interesting.

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    It's actually quite simple. Operating systems see hard drive space in base 2, which means a single gigabyte is 1024MB. Hard drive manufacturers, on the other hand, use base 10, which means a single gigabyte is 1000MB. So as you can see, there is a 24MB "loss" for every gigabyte between what a hard drive manufacturer claims and what is actually seen by the operating system.

    That's a highly simplified way of putting it, but that's roughly the gist of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kash View Post
    It's actually quite simple. Operating systems see hard drive space in base 2, which means a single gigabyte is 1024MB. Hard drive manufacturers, on the other hand, use base 10, which means a single gigabyte is 1000MB. So as you can see, there is a 24MB "loss" for every gigabyte between what a hard drive manufacturer claims and what is actually seen by the operating system.

    That's a highly simplified way of putting it, but that's roughly the gist of it.
    OK, I think I get it now. So then they shouldnt really call it a 120gb ipod, rather it should be a 111gb(or 110gb) to be on the safeside. Kinda more like overmarketing to me.

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    More like false advertising, and you're not the first one to say anything about it. I know for a fact that Western Digital got sued, not sure what happened or what other companies have been sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperM3 View Post
    OK, I think I get it now. So then they shouldnt really call it a 120gb ipod, rather it should be a 111gb(or 110gb) to be on the safeside. Kinda more like overmarketing to me.
    Dell, Gateway, HP, Compaq, Apple and every other brand I could name here all would call it a 120GB Drive. Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor, Fujitsu, Hitachi also would call it a 120GB drive. Apple is using the same Specs as everyone else.

    Kash, WD like everyone else is still using 120GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    Dell, Gateway, HP, Compaq, Apple and every other brand I could name here all would call it a 120GB Drive. Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor, Fujitsu, Hitachi also would call it a 120GB drive. Apple is using the same Specs as everyone else.
    Kinda like ford with their 5.0 liter engine when it was actually a 4.6. I understand, I just feel jipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperM3 View Post
    Kinda like ford with their 5.0 liter engine when it was actually a 4.6. I understand, I just feel jipped.

    I understand where you are coming from and I feel the same way, but just wanted to show it was not Apples fault, but the whole industry.

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    16gig iPod Touch has about 14Gb free for your information.

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