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    Since it's running some sort of OS X I wonder if other apps can be installed. Getting my VPN client on it would be tremendous, and the terminal.

    Edit: To answer my own question, probably not. They keynote says iPhone ships with two widgets which I take to mean the widgets had to be rewritten specifically for the iPhone so I don't see Cisco running out and writing a VPN client. Especially not Cisco. But hey, I can dream, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by opus_az View Post
    Since it's running some sort of OS X I wonder if other apps can be installed. Getting my VPN client on it would be tremendous, and the terminal.

    Edit: To answer my own question, probably not. They keynote says iPhone ships with two widgets which I take to mean the widgets had to be rewritten specifically for the iPhone so I don't see Cisco running out and writing a VPN client. Especially not Cisco. But hey, I can dream, right?
    What bothers me more is the rumor I just read that the battery is not removable - the unit has to be taken in and changed by a "professional." If true that spells "expensive" to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opus_az View Post
    Since it's running some sort of OS X I wonder if other apps can be installed. Getting my VPN client on it would be tremendous, and the terminal.

    Edit: To answer my own question, probably not. They keynote says iPhone ships with two widgets which I take to mean the widgets had to be rewritten specifically for the iPhone so I don't see Cisco running out and writing a VPN client. Especially not Cisco. But hey, I can dream, right?
    I thought that they had said it would run dashboard widgets. There are one or two VPN widgets floating around aren't there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaNoHair View Post
    What bothers me more is the rumor I just read that the battery is not removable - the unit has to be taken in and changed by a "professional." If true that spells "expensive" to me.
    This is expected. No iPod has an user removable battery and several PDAs follow the same rule. Still, even if that's the case there are plenty of batteries for such devices.

    Quote Originally Posted by dan828 View Post
    I thought that they had said it would run dashboard widgets. There are one or two VPN widgets floating around aren't there?
    Jobs said "desktop class" aplication, i'm sure within time all kind of apps will be available, but for a few months Widgets will be the best option.
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    Most reports are saying no third party apps will be available:

    http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/iphon...-applications/

    No user replaceable battery
    No third party apps
    Slow internet connectivity (Edge instead of HSPDA)
    No memory card slot.

    This device is not as earth shattering as many people say it is. People say it is still several months from shipping, but keep in mind the hardware cannot be changed once it is submitted to the FCC for approval. The Blackjack can do all of the above for $199, so many people are going to be asking if the iPhone is really worth the premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeac View Post
    Most reports are saying no third party apps will be available:

    http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/iphon...-applications/

    No user replaceable battery
    No third party apps
    Slow internet connectivity (Edge instead of HSPDA)
    No memory card slot.

    This device is not as earth shattering as many people say it is. People say it is still several months from shipping, but keep in mind the hardware cannot be changed once it is submitted to the FCC for approval. The Blackjack can do all of the above for $199, so many people are going to be asking if the iPhone is really worth the premium.
    It has Edge as well as WIFI, Did you watch the keynote? I was pretty impressed and I would dissagree that the blackjack can do "all of the above"
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    Let us compare the two:

    Samsung Blackjack (SGH-I607) Specs

    Technical Specifications
    Network: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / UMTS 850 / 1900
    Form Factor: PDA / Windows Mobile 5.0
    Dimensions: 113 x 59 x 12 mm
    Weight: 99 g
    Antenna: Internal
    Navigation: QWERTY Keypad / 5-Way Keypad
    Battery Type: 1200 mAh Li-Ion
    Talk Time: 5.50
    Standby Time: 264
    Memory: 64.0 MB
    Expandable Memory: microSD / TransFlash

    Imaging
    Main Screen: 65000 colors (TFT)
    320 x 240 px
    External Screen:
    Camera: 1.3 MP / 1280 x 960 px / 2X Zoom / Multi-Shot / Self-Timer / Video Recorder

    Audio
    MP3 Player: Windows Media Player
    FM Radio:no
    Speakerphone:yes
    Push-To-Talk:no

    Multimedia
    Wallpapers: 320 x 240 px
    Screen Savers: 320 x 240 px
    Ring Tones:yes
    Themes:yes
    Games: J2ME
    Streaming Multimedia: Windows Media Player

    Messaging
    SMS:yes
    EMS:yes
    MMS:yes
    Email: POP3 / IMAP4 / SMTP / Microsoft Direct Push
    Chat: AOL / MSN / Yahoo!
    Predictive Text: T9

    Applications
    Phonebook Capacity:?
    Calendar: Pocket Outlook
    To-Do List:yes
    WAP: Pocket Internet Explorer
    Voice Commands:yes
    Calculator:yes

    Connectivity
    Bluetooth: 2.0
    Infrared Port:no
    High-Speed Data: GPRS (Class 10) / EDGE / UMTS
    Wi-Fi:no
    GPS:no
    PC Sync: Microsoft ActiveSync

    Apple iPhone Specs

    Technical Specifications
    Network: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    Form Factor: Block / Mac OS X
    Dimensions: 115 x 61 x 112 mm
    Weight: 135 g
    Antenna: Internal
    Navigation: Multi-Touch / QWERTY Keypad
    Battery Type: Li-Ion
    Talk Time: 5.00
    Standby Time: ?
    Memory: 4GB or 8GB
    Expandable Memory: ?

    Imaging
    Main Screen: 0 colors (TFT)
    320 x 480 px
    External Screen:no
    Camera: 2.0 MP / Video Recorder

    Audio
    MP3 Player: iTunes / Cover Flow
    FM Radio:no
    Speakerphone:yes
    Push-To-Talk:?

    Multimedia
    Wallpapers: 320 x 480 px
    Screen Savers: 320 x 480 px
    Ring Tones: MP3
    Themes:yes
    Games:yes
    Streaming Multimedia: iTunes

    Messaging
    SMS:yes
    EMS:yes
    MMS:yes
    Email: POP3 / IMAP4 / SMTP
    Chat:yes
    Predictive Text:?

    Applications
    Phonebook Capacity: ?
    Calendar:yes
    To-Do List:yes
    WAP: Safari Browser / Google and Yahoo! Search
    Voice Commands:yes
    Calculator:yes

    Connectivity
    Bluetooth: 2.0
    Infrared Port:?
    High-Speed Data: GPRS (Class 10) / EDGE
    Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g
    GPS:no
    PC Sync:yes

    Since we only have a limited amount of info about the iPhone, you decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeac View Post
    Most reports are saying no third party apps will be available:

    http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/iphon...-applications/

    No user replaceable battery
    No third party apps
    Slow internet connectivity (Edge instead of HSPDA)
    No memory card slot.

    This device is not as earth shattering as many people say it is. People say it is still several months from shipping, but keep in mind the hardware cannot be changed once it is submitted to the FCC for approval. The Blackjack can do all of the above for $199, so many people are going to be asking if the iPhone is really worth the premium.
    Yikes. No third part apps? That's a huge mistake. Pretty much a deal breaker for me-- I can't imagine forking out that much money and being tied in to a single vender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubrickx View Post
    GPS:no
    I didn't think a phone can be added to a network without GPS. Verizon won't let me add my old StarTac for exactly that reason.
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    It would probably sell more if it could be sync'ed to outlook.

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    I will have one, I wanted a smart phone for a while but they are all ugly and big so now I can get one. or in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan828 View Post
    Yikes. No third part apps? That's a huge mistake. Pretty much a deal breaker for me-- I can't imagine forking out that much money and being tied in to a single vender.
    Ditto, and if that does not change then I will stick with my Treo 650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattlike View Post
    It would probably sell more if it could be sync'ed to outlook.
    Yea because I am sure Microsoft is jumping out of their seats wanting to provide the functionality so they can sync it to their exchange servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by trpnmonkey41 View Post
    Yea because I am sure Microsoft is jumping out of their seats wanting to provide the functionality so they can sync it to their exchange servers
    OMGYESEXACTLY.

    That's not the point I was trying to make. The fact that there are so many outlook users who want outlook syncing as one of the functions of their devices will detour some would be purchasers. Not to mention the lack of 3G will also detour many others, but I'm sure you have another snide retort about that as well.

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