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kirrwed 09-20-2013 04:59 PM

Help: iphone no longer works with iTunes after ios7
 
I have an iPhone 4S. I recently upgraded to ios7 after reading an article that sounded like compatibility wouldn't be a problem.

I was wrong. I plugged it into my G4 laptop, which is running iTunes 10.6.3. And now it can't read my phone. I can't drag MP3s from my laptop to my iphone anymore. How can I remedy this without having to buy a new laptop? I regularly dragged MP3s onto my phone daily from podcasts and whatnot.

MYmacROX 09-20-2013 05:36 PM

iOS 7 requires iTunes 11. It is likely your G4 is too old to update to iTunes 11.

Always a good idea to research all hardware and software compatibility requirements before upgrades. Especially when you have older model hardware.

I'm sure there are 3rd party apps that will allow you to transfer MP3s to your iPhone. I've never used any, but a simple Google search should turn up a few options.

iCloud will keep your music up to date if they are purchases made from iTunes store.

chscag 09-20-2013 08:37 PM

Actually, iOS 7 requires iTunes 11.1 which you can not install on the G4..... :(

TattooedMac 09-20-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kirrwed (Post 1538317)
How can I remedy this without having to buy a new laptop? I regularly dragged MP3s onto my phone daily from podcasts and whatnot.

Go back to iOS 6.1.4 and you can for a cetain amount of time, like as they say in this article at Gizmodo ~ Aust. But if you cant restore from iTunes the normal way, you will have to grab the 6.1.4 .ispw from here and then holding option down while you click the restore button in iTunes and navigate to the .ispw you just downloaded.
With old equipment there is always a time where it is stopped being supported and as chscag said, the G4 wont be able to take iTunes 11.1

kirrwed 09-23-2013 05:58 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, all. I'm too late on the downgrade according to my research. So it looks like my only hope is 3rd party app. So far, all the 3rd party apps that can put music on an iPhone are not yet compatible with ios7. Does anyone know of one that would be compatible with a G4 and ios7?

kirrwed 09-24-2013 10:46 AM

Is it possible to put anything higher than OS 10.5 on a MacBook Pro?

Raz0rEdge 09-24-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kirrwed (Post 1539133)
Is it possible to put anything higher than OS 10.5 on a MacBook Pro?

Depends on the Macbook Pro..you can most definitely go to Snow Leopard. If it's a Macbook Pro after 2008 or so, a good chance (once you upgrade the RAM likely) you can run Mountain Lion..

Without the exact specs, hard to say what you can and cannot do..

kirrwed 09-25-2013 06:33 PM

Paydirt. There is a free app called EXMP3. I installed this on my iPhone. Under the feature "File Transfer," you have the option to select wi-fi or G3. Once it detects how you are connected to the web, it gives you a URL address. You type this URL address into your computer's browser, and it is a page that lets you select MP3s from your computer. It then transmits it to the EZMP3 app. And presto, you can transfer MP3s to your iPhone and play them in the EZMP3 app. No need to buy Apple upgrades yet.

Honestly, the fact that transferring an MP3 you own to a phone you own is not some new technology that should go away with new system upgrades. It's just dragging from a folder to a folder. Apple may or may not have intentionally disabled this simple task in order to get laggers to buy new computers. Why sell the same thing to someone once when you can sell it to them over and over?

kirrwed 09-27-2013 10:23 AM

I don't think the issue is quite that simple, Chas. Sure, this particular update could have only cost $20, but what about after that. And what instability issues are there in dragging a file to a folder? Can someone articulate that? Why a new system with new bells and whistles suddenly makes dragging a file from one folder to another difficult? Is Apple above such deliberate things? Suddenly the new ipad have a different cord connector. Every laptop I've ever bought had a different power cord connector. Which is the superior one? Results in a lot of extra sales doesn't it? Because when a cord goes bad, you can't use an old one. If there is legitimate technological reasons for all of these variations and pattern of incompatibility, I'd like to hear it. I never have heard one. Maybe Apple is run by saints who merely look out for the customer. I don't know, but the evidence seems to tilt a certain way to me anyway.

MacInWin 09-27-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kirrwed (Post 1539767)
I don't think the issue is quite that simple, Chas. Sure, this particular update could have only cost $20, but what about after that.

For your machine, there is no "after that." That $20 buys you the latest OS that can be put on that old machine. It's at the end of its life.
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And what instability issues are there in dragging a file to a folder? Can someone articulate that? Why a new system with new bells and whistles suddenly makes dragging a file from one folder to another difficult? Is Apple above such deliberate things?
It's not just a drag and drop, it's that to support the new features in IOS7 iTunes needed to be updated and Apple chose not to spend the time and money to make that update compatible with OSX 10.5. You are using a very old technology with old operating system and are now being left in the dust of obsolescence.
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Suddenly the new ipad have a different cord connector. Every laptop I've ever bought had a different power cord connector. Which is the superior one? Results in a lot of extra sales doesn't it? Because when a cord goes bad, you can't use an old one.
No extra sales other than replacing the original cord with a proper matching one, either from the original vendor or a third party supplier. It's hard for my friend with a 1928 Whippet to get parts, too. Technology moves on, parts become scarce because demand drops. It's the price one pays for trying to sustain old tech.
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If there is legitimate technological reasons for all of these variations and pattern of incompatibility, I'd like to hear it. I never have heard one. Maybe Apple is run by saints who merely look out for the customer. I don't know, but the evidence seems to tilt a certain way to me anyway.
It's called progress. It happens. Serial ports were replaced with USB ports, then USB2, then USB3 plus there were FireWire and Thunderbolt ports as well. Apple is always looking to make the connectors smaller so that the real estate on the outside of the iPhone can be optimized for other things, like the speakers and headphone jack. So the Lightning connector is smaller than the old 32 pin connector. But Apple also makes a converter so that all those older things for the older phones can be connected to the new Lightning port. Yes, you have to buy it, but that's the price of trying to reuse old technology with new.


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