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    help: free galaxy 3 or not free iphone
    I need to get my first smart phone and see that t-mobile offers a free (!) Samsung galaxy 3 for next days with new contract. Any reason I would regret this? i.e., could there be an issue with getting my Samsung pix into I-photo?

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    One reason not to get the free Samsung Galaxy from T-Mobile: It's not an iPhone.

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    After the horrible service my mother had, I would NOT recommend T-Mobile.

    See what Verizon or AT&T has to offer. Maybe even Sprint.

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    Nothing wrong with T-Mobile service. I've been using them for well over 5 years without any problems. The real drawback is that they don't offer the iPhone. But that may change now that they purchased Metro PCS and have instituted some newer frequencies for 4G.

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    Where I would have service with my Sprint phone, she would have no service with her T-Mobile (both similar HTC phones). You have your experience/opinion and I have mine.

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    That's OK. Around here Sprint is terrible and T-Mobile is good. But you're talking about signal quality, not customer service. T-Mobile signal is generally good around large cities but once out in the boon docks, the signal is spotty. Sprint signal is generally weak everywhere around here along with their poor customer service. (My experience.) However, that might just be here and not in your area. One reason why I purchased a Verizon iPad because their LTE signal is strong just about everywhere.

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    The Galaxy 3 is a really nice phone to be sure. I would check with T-Mobile and see if they give you any kind of a "test drive" period, where you can cancel the service and return the phones if it doesn't work in the places you need to use it in.

    The iPhone is much less maintenance, but Android is fun if you don't mind tweaking around with your phone to get it to consistently work the way you need it to. I'd say if the service is good, the deal is right, and you find Android to suit your tastes, go for it!
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    The only reasons I can think of against Android phones is not all of them can be updated to the latest OS and the fact roll out from some of the carriers is painfully slow.
    Further evidence of this can be found by visiting the forums.
    The other plus side to the iPhone is it integrates beautifully with the rest of the Apple line.

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    You really do have to be careful choosing a carrier. A lot of it has to do with whether or not you travel a lot or if you're staying in your general area. And of course which carrier is best in your area.

    Chris, where in NY are you? T-Mobile has very good service in the metro NYC area. Speed tests consistently show a ping of 31ms and no less than 14mbps down and 7mbps up. It is also dependent on the phone as well. Some phones aren't capable of the full spectrum that Tmo has to offer. The Galaxy S3 is capable of LTE as well as HSPA+ 42 Their new Nexus 4 *which I'm very interested in* is also capable of HSPA 42, but they haven't rolled that spectrum out for NYC yet, so it only gets 21, which is that 14mbps.

    You also have to be aware of the fact that unless it's a pure vanilla Google phone, the handset manufacturers have full control over OS updates, and that's a BAD thing. It's the reason that Google told Verizon to take a hike with this new Nexus 4 release. Pure Google phones get updates immediately, directly from Google as soon as they're ready. Verizon screwed their customers over in this regard, so I'd be wary about going that route with an Android phone.

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    Everyone pretty much covered the main issue with Android vs iOS. Had a friend that wanted to try tethering devices since he has unlimited data with T-mobile. We downloaded every free app for tethering and none of them ended up working.

    Did a quick google search and found out that the apps don't work with Jellybean which happens to be the version that his phone was running.

    Flash apparently has issues running in certain web browsers as well with Jellybean. Never knew about it until one of my relatives bought a Transformer Prime Tablet which was running Jellybean and was unable to run anything off youtube or anything flash based. They had to download so many different browsers with the same problem.

    When any of those issues are going to address? Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug b View Post
    Chris, where in NY are you?
    I'm upstate from NYC about half an hour.

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    There is no more flash with Android as of 4.1.

    Not going to be either - Adobe couldn't get it right and gave up just 9 months after bringing flash to Android.
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    The phones I see that are capable or allowed running Flash eat through a battery very quick carrying a charger would be mandatory.

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    Here are the reasons I *generally* recommend people steer clear of Android. Bear in mind that I'm mostly not talking about hardware here -- as plastic phones go, there are quite a few nice ones out there, the Galaxy S III being the current best of breed IMO. Here we go:

    1. Updates. You won't get more than one, because the carrier is in charge of what OS version you get to run. And they have a STRONG incentive not to give you any updates, because they want you to jump ship halfway through your contract and pay to get a newer phone. So in a very short period of time (compared to the iPhone), your shiny Android phone will start not being able to use the latest apps and features.

    2. Viruses, malware, spyware. Security firm BT says that they think up to a THIRD of all Android apps have malware on board. Mostly in the form of spyware, but there are plenty of spamware, scamware, botware and other nasties waiting for you. Big problem in Android-land, just TODAY in fact some doofuses paid (!!) and downloaded fake "Apple" apps from the Google Play store. How stupid would you have to be to fall for that, but they posted reviews which means they bought.

    3. Ever-changing, ever-obsolete. People complain about how fast Apple updates stuff, but compared to Android models it's positively glacial. The reason you're getting a good deal on the S III is because the S IV is due out in a couple of months. My iPhone 4 still runs the latest everything, but let's check with the Galaxy S I owners -- oh wait, nobody's using that phone anymore because it's a) over two years old (!), b) can't run anything newer than v2.3 and c) can't run any of the new apps.

    4. Carrier crapware. Bottom line: Google makes Android for the carriers, not for you. That's why they let the carriers slather on their own UI and crapware all over the phones. Result? Very inconsistent experiences. If I was going to buy an Android device, I'd get the ones from Google itself (like the Nexus phone) so I might have a chance at more than one update, and a "pure" Android experience.

    5. Google. Everything Google does -- everything -- has a single purpose: to gather information on its users in order to better target its advertising. There's nothing inherently wrong with this if users are aware, but IME they aren't. This is very, VERY different from what Apple is going for, which is software that delights the end users (not the carriers, witness iMessage as proof of that) and has no interest in collecting personal data about users except as needed by applications (such as Maps). To me, that's a huge factor.

    6. Build quality. There are some excellent Android phones, but they're not typical (and not cheap). The build quality on an iPhone is just phenomenal. I like quality-built stuff. To that point:

    7. The apps and eco-cycle. I would (rightly) feel like a second-class citizen if I had an Android phone, both in terms of apps and in terms of accessories. Every single well-known app on Android (with perhaps one or two exceptions made by Google) was an iOS app first. I've yet to hear of a single Android app that so clearly surpasses anything available on iOS that I'd consider it a must-have, and I doubt I ever will -- even though the combined share of Android phones outsells iPhones by a considerable margin. I want my phone apps to run on my tablet, which is (of course) an iPad because its the best tablet by a LONG way. I like the iTunes eco-system since it also crosses over in many ways to my Mac. I like the care and attention to detail and style the best app developers put into their apps, and where do they get that sense of aesthetics? From Apple.

    If I personally had to choose between an iPhone 4 ("old" but free on contract) and a Galaxy S III (free on contract), I'd take the iPhone in a heartbeat because of the factors mentioned. But even with a price difference, I consider the gap too small to give Android any sort of serious advantage over iOS, especially given that the investment I make is going to be with me for at least two (and in Canada, three) years.

    That's my view on the issue. As I say, I've seen some nice stuff in the Android world (the Galaxy S III I like, and the Nexus 7 -- but not much else, I have to say). But if was going to turn away from iOS, why would I want an obvious iOS wanna-be (in the same way that Windows is an OS X wanna-be)? Wouldn't I want something that wasn't just a poor-man's iOS, like say ... ironically ... Windows Phone 8?

    I love competition and I think it keeps Apple on their toes, but let's not kid ourselves about who is leading the market. If the obvious best in class can be had for something around the same price as the wanna-bes, why not the best?

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    Chas, that was outstanding. I'd love to see that featured that as an editorial on the blog. Are you on our blogging team?
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

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