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    I'm returning my iPhone 4
    Yes I'm having the antenna issue....more on that later.

    It's the lens cover. I refuse to use a case/screen 'protector'. Why should I need a screen protector? If I need a screen protector, then it should be included with the phone. It's super tough scratch resistant glass! Although, I've found my tungsten wedding band will scratch the glass, as it is a much harder material.

    So, about that lens. It's made of crappy cheap plastic. Really, Apple? Arguably the most important part of the backside of the phone, and you allowed it to get skipped over on the magic new glass treatment. It is now almost completely covered in scratches, and there is an extremely noticeable blur in the pictures and videos now.


    The antenna problem is pretty frustrating too. Not only do I not want to cover such a beautifully designed phone, but the bumper case is rounded and my car's 30 pin connector to my stereo is squared....it's just a headache. These two major problems are so disappointing I simply don't want the phone anymore. I'll get my 3GS back and wait until they fix the issues. I'd wager though that the lens issue won't even be addressed, mark my words.

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    Why is EVERYONE making such a HUGE deal about the antenna thing? The bumper fixes that issue, and if you would take care of your phone instead of throwing it around, it wouldnt get scratched. I was 9th in the store on the 24th, haven't put my phone down, and have not a SINGLE mark on this phone. Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you. Maybe you should go get a blackberry, seems like you prefer a brick that never breaks.

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    Congratulations on your return! Now, go on to your normal life and be happy!

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    Are you serious? First, I didn't make a HUGE deal out of the antenna issue; I said it was a contributing factor. Second, the iphone only sits in my pocket or on a flat surface. IT GOT THE SCRATCHES FROM NORMAL USE. Third, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ANY SCRATCHES AT ALL. They should have made it out of alumino-silicate-superman glass like the rest of the phone. Show me a picture of/from your lens, jerk. And no, the bumper doesn't fix the antenna issue completely. If you had read my post, you would know that the bumper's shape also doesn't allow me to plug in my phone to my stereo. And what if I want to make a big deal out of it?

    "Seems like you prefer a brick that never breaks."

    Uh, doy. When I spend over $400 bucks on a phone, I expect a certain level of quality, especially from Apple.

    Seems like you prefer to not read posts before popping off at the mouth.

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    Just return the phone...that's your privilege!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idrinorbarsaku View Post
    Congratulations on your return! Now, go on to your normal life and be happy!

    You're a last laugh kind of guy, aren't you? I nominate you for the most clever and burning lines ever to be entered in a forum in history. Congratulations.

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    No Name Calling is allowed here at Mac Forums. Read the Community Guidelines in my SIG please.

    If you do not like your iPhone 4, take it back. Maybe a Google OS phone will better suit your needs although Anandtech's excellent review showed a close to 20 DB drop on a Google Phone when the antenna was covered by a human hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Just return the phone...that's your privilege!

    - Nick
    Nice job editing your post. Is that what you do? Speak your mind and then retract it for no good reason? Where's the part about me making a federal case out of it?

    Are you guys Fruit looping serious? I already said I was going to return the phone. Your name is officially 'Yeah yeah'. All you did was regurgitate my post. Now comes the part where you flip your phone over and go, "gee my lens is scratched too. As an Apple fan, I'm surprised at this oversight from a company renowned for their quality."

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    Play nice folks. It's a phone, not the Holy Grail. Some are going to like it, some will not. To each their own. Move on now please.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

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    On a side note to anyone else looking to comment on this post, I would keep a keen eye out for this case.... I have heard of a few prototypes of this case performing wonderfully!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwa107 View Post
    Play nice folks. It's a phone, not the Holy Grail. Some are going to like it, some will not. To each their own. Move on now please.


    LOL........where did I say this phone was the Holy Grail? I'M NOT THE ONE IGNORING THE FLAWS. Wow. What is the point of a forum if you can't voice a concern? I am playing nice. And I'm getting reprimanded for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtravis7 View Post
    No Name Calling is allowed here at Mac Forums. Read the Community Guidelines in my SIG please.

    If you do not like your iPhone 4, take it back. Maybe a Google OS phone will better suit your needs although Anandtech's excellent review showed a close to 20 DB drop on a Google Phone when the antenna was covered by a human hand.
    Thanks again for reiterating my post. Sick burn too. I come here with a legitimate concern, and get rebuked because you think for some reason that I'm abandoning Apple. Everyone knows there isn't a piece of hardware out there that even comes close to Apple's, even with these issues. That doesn't mean I think it's the Holy Grail, just a really good piece of hardware. As soon as they fix them, I'll get my iPhone 4 back. Maybe you should get down off your high horse. You're some dude on a forum. Seriously. Nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithk2719 View Post
    On a side note to anyone else looking to comment on this post, I would keep a keen eye out for this case.... I have heard of a few prototypes of this case performing wonderfully!

    iPhone 4 Commuter Series Case // OtterBox.com
    I can attest to the Seidio Innocase line. If it's anything like the one for the HTC Incredible, it should be on any iPhone owner's short list.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonoluminescent View Post
    LOL........where did I say this phone was the Holy Grail? I'M NOT THE ONE IGNORING THE FLAWS. Wow. What is the point of a forum if you can't voice a concern? I am playing nice. And I'm getting reprimanded for it.
    Actually, that wasn't intended for you but the others you were lashing out at.

    I'm going to tell you to chill out just once, this will be your only warning.
    Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!

    https://youtu.be/KHZ8ek-6ccc

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    Okay, here it is:

    Beautiful, Functional, And Durable.

    YOU CAN ONLY PICK TWO.

    Not a single device in history can keep up to ALL three of these standards.

    THEREFORE, because we want Beautiful AND functional as all heck, we pick APPLE.

    WHY? Because they have done in a few years what it has taken microsoft decades to try to do: Listen to their consumers.

    That being said, if you have a beautiful device like this, do like I do. Keep it in an Oakley Glass case pouch. They cost $1.50! And its a great way to clean your screen as well.

    If you want a device that you can toss around and NOT get scratches on, go get a tough phone that looks like crap, works like crap, but can take a beating. Or buy a case for it (iPhone). And as CWA stated, that case, as well as a few others, are very functional, and protect that "400 dollar" phone like it deserves to be.

    Relax. Take it back, go get something else, and come back in 4 years when they make a phone out of titanium and bullet proof glass. (That also scratches, btw.)

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