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Hello TattooMac,

I just started reading Mac Programming for the Absolute Beginner , I really like this book, The only problem is it is written with Xcode 3.2 examples and not Xcode 4.3. and I have not seen a newer publication.So there is a little figuring out to do, but it is not that bad.
I wish you best with your programming adventure.
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I've actually downloaded both versions 4, and 3 of xcode because of that problem. I'm doing most of my practicing and stuff with xcode 3 because most of the learning resources use that. Then I guess once it's time to go all the way with making an app, I'll start trying to figure out xcode 4.
If you want to do the same, xcode 3 is a free download on developer.apple.com if you create a free developer account.
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Hey friends.

Im going well on my way as in learning to develop. Im learning C first and Obj-C as well with a online course being a Code Develop Camp and the instructor is cool, funny and makes mistakes, and i like that i see the mistakes as he writes his code in his .m and .h files and when he compiles he finds it. Feel like yelling down the line to him lol
But as i said I'm happy in my progress and have now got 3 Apps a made myself running on my iPhone5 under iOS 6, so I'm going to try figure out now how to get them to run on iOS 7 . . . More fun.

Now why I'm here is because i woke the other night, after weeks and weeks trying to come up with a Tech Company Name for myself, and now i have waking to this name sticking in my head.

I suppose i should of come here to get suggestions and Brain Storm with members on a name, or like my Radio Station came up with band names, with 2 lists of names, and pull one out then the other, and they usually sounded like cool band names, and the Name Generators and useless on the web or what exorbitant prices for iOS.

BUt getting to the point, Im not a big Pixelmator user, but will i be able to use it to draw a animal cartoonish looking and Mechanical stuff like pulleys, cogs, and wheels ?? And if so, where do i look for tutorial, as what is this type of drawing called ?? Vector or something ?? Im wanting to come up with a mascot for my now New Company Name

Anyhelp would be appreciated. Or is there a iOS App that would be more user friendly using a Stylus ??
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OR is anyone up for a challenge PM me and ill give you the Name and what I'm looking for so you can have a go @CrimsonR ??

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Unfortunately I don't have a Graphics Art bone in my body, but really interested to see what you have come up with, Brent.
Glad to hear things are progressing.
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Let me chime in before this thread goes extinct! I have the third edition of the book pictures on the right, through Safari Books Online. But have been unable to download the source code for DemoMonkey. Have you been able to get that download TattooedMac?

I've mostly been a Windows person for the last 20+ years. My initial reason for getting a Mac last year, was to do iOS development. But I got sidetracked just playing around with the Mac, lol!

For me the hardest part is learning Objective-C. I'm already an experienced programmer with C#, which is a hot language in the Microsoft world, similar in syntax to Java. You would think that since both Objective-C and C# are based on C, it should be simple. Nothing could be further from the truth.

So for me, do I go whole hog and try to learn Objective-C? Or do I use third-party that tools allow me to code and iOS using C#? There already is one such tool by Xamarin.

I really need to quit playing with the Mac, and redouble my efforts to learn iOS development, darn it!
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Hi there mate. I havnt tried to download Demo Monkey, and on the Apple Dev Portal, looking for it, i get its a retired document. Apple dont use it anymore, as they had if for development with Xcode 3.1.2 and OS 10.6, which is now 3 years behind us. Xcode 4 and 5 are so much more advanced now, and it gets easier and easier to Develop now with Xcode, once you find what they have changed and where they have put things.

On your other question, read my post above #48, i believe IMHO anyways that C and Obj-C are closer to each other than C and C#.
I found it easier to learn C 1st then get into Obj-C. Im still learning, but started off wrong, thinking Obj-C was the way to go, but as i dug deeper, i found the experts, said its better first to get a understanding of C before you even touch Obj-C, and once you have done that, you will know why they said to tackle C 1st.
I have know idea what C# is like to write, but if your experienced in C# then you should understand why the experts say get into C before Obj-C.

Mate i been a Mac man for years, and only have Windows on Bootcamp, because its the only way for me to play a RC Helicopter and Plane Simulator , but if you REALLY want Monkey, i found it here. There is a $99 pro version and a Demo so try before you buy.
Really i would learn to write in Obj-C because with Xcode and the Dev Portal, you have a LOT of resources at your hands, and even 2 free Specialist Apple Engineer help as well. With the cross platform 3rd party Apps, your on your own, with maybe Stack Overflow as your resources. Its well worth the $99 even when learning as its a wealth of knowledge behind those Dev Portal Doors

HTH

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PS And i just downloaded the Demo and opens just fine. It will be the Monkey.app in the Folder once you unzip it.

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I briefly coded in C some 20 years ago, but not at an advanced level. I remember using pointers, but soon shifted to Visual Basic and the rest is history. I don't even know if Objective-C uses pointers or not. C# avoids the more terse aspects of C syntax and is otherwise as friendly as Basic.

My only desire for DemoMonkey is to following along in the book. I downloaded the source code from the Apress site, but it is for the wrong book. The 3rd edition must be quite new, so I may email the author for the correct source code. I only rent the book online at my.safaribooksonline.com.

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I briefly coded in C some 20 years ago, but not at an advanced level. I remember using pointers, but soon shifted to Visual Basic and the rest is history. I don't even know if Objective-C uses pointers or not. C# avoids the more terse aspects of C syntax and is otherwise as friendly as Basic.
Im sure C is closer to Obj-C than C#

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The 3rd edition must be quite new, so I may email the author for the correct source code.

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No it goes the other way, i have 5th edition which is newer than 3rd Edition and there will most probably be a 6th Edition out by now.
Easy way to tell, is by what .v Xcode are they using ?? Im Using Xcode 4.6.3 and we now have a Beta Seed of Xcode 5

I think your behind the ball, and what makes it hard, is every .v of Xcode, Apple simplify it and put things somewhere different, or you do something different, because they have excluded something.

Like with the online course i was doing, he was using a .v Xcode 2 versions back, which is 2 updates, and there was so many things different.
You need to have the latest and look for the newest books, courses and so on.
iTuneU has something from Stanford University School of Engineering that is good and it Developing Apps for iPhone and iPad (Winter 2013) CS193P. It well worth the look as its a full course start to end teaching you coding from Stanford. ?!?!?!

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