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Hello everyone. I was sitting in the tech room (in this situation it's a good thing I work for computer services at my school, otherwise they'd probably think that I'm doing something malicious) when the network admin came up to me asking "Isn't your computer's name Lappy486?"
Me- "Yeah"
Admin - "It says your computer tried to log into the domain server as 'guest'"
Me- "Uh...sweet?"
Admin - "No, now I have a reason to say Mac's are stupid and unsecured, your computer must be being used by someone else to hack the network1!11!!"
Me- "That's really unlikely, I bet my mac is just somehow detecting the domain and trying to pair with it because Mac's are sweet and like to go out and do such things automatically"
Admin - "pshh"

Our domain is using Windows Server 2003 and when we checked the logs one other mac on the network was shown to do the exact same thing, attempt to authenticate with the domain as a guest. I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about.

There's all sorts of anti-mac distrust floating around in our department now, someone save me from what I used to be: an ignorant Windows user.
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Well when ever you connect any Computer Device it's default settings are normally set to automatically to configure to the network.

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Tell him to get rid of his hatred for OSX and Macs. I have had Windows XP laptops do the same basic thing.

Macs are Stupid and Unsecured? Tell him to come here and fix the P4 laptop that I am working on with Windows Explorer trying to go to address's on the net and over 1000 Virus's leave alone all the Malware and spyware I got rid of and then tell me OSX is unsecured and unsafe and stupid. He is an Hater of Apple just like the Mac users who bash Windows XP in an Unfair way. Both are bad.
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I agree that all computers associate with a network automatically. All computers do not immediately associate with domain controllers (at least, not on the windows side which is the only o/s i can say i have advanced knowledge in). On our network it isn't even necessary to be a part of the domain. None of the students' personal computers on campus are part of the domain, we generally only associate computers to it if they are faculty/staff/work study machines. The log does clearly state that a computer with the name "Lappy486" (my machine) attempted (and failed) to log into the domain with the username "Guest". Our domain doesn't allow that user to log on, so it naturally kicked it back and logged the failure. As far as I know I did not initiate any of this.
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I agree that all computers associate with a network automatically. All computers do not immediately associate with domain controllers (at least, not on the windows side which is the only o/s i can say i have advanced knowledge in). On our network it isn't even necessary to be a part of the domain. None of the students' personal computers on campus are part of the domain, we generally only associate computers to it if they are faculty/staff/work study machines. The log does clearly state that a computer with the name "Lappy486" (my machine) attempted (and failed) to log into the domain with the username "Guest". Our domain doesn't allow that user to log on, so it naturally kicked it back and logged the failure. As far as I know I did not initiate any of this.
I'm a network admin and i had a user who had a Powerbook (i believe) running OS X (not sure what version) and i never had a problem with his computer. I never saw anything in the logs where it was trying to connect to the domain as a guest. The biggest problem we had with his machine was one day we were looking at our DHCP leases on the server and saw a weird computername (with lowercase and capital latters like a hacker) that was given a lease that didnt have our domain extension (computername.domainname.com). We found out it was his and we were ok with it.

I can try to bring my wifes Macbook with me to work monday and look at our domain controller to see if it tries to connect. we have a windows 2000 server so im not sure if that will make a difference. I dont see why it would initiate unless some service was turned on on the Mac to auto discover domains and try to log on as guest. If no one has an answer over the weekend i will try to test it out on monday (given that my wife will let me borrow her Mac)
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Hello everyone. I was sitting in the tech room (in this situation it's a good thing I work for computer services at my school, otherwise they'd probably think that I'm doing something malicious) when the network admin came up to me asking "Isn't your computer's name Lappy486?"
Me- "Yeah"
Admin - "It says your computer tried to log into the domain server as 'guest'"
Me- "Uh...sweet?"
Admin - "No, now I have a reason to say Mac's are stupid and unsecured, your computer must be being used by someone else to hack the network1!11!!"
Me- "That's really unlikely, I bet my mac is just somehow detecting the domain and trying to pair with it because Mac's are sweet and like to go out and do such things automatically"
Admin - "pshh"

Our domain is using Windows Server 2003 and when we checked the logs one other mac on the network was shown to do the exact same thing, attempt to authenticate with the domain as a guest. I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about.

There's all sorts of anti-mac distrust floating around in our department now, someone save me from what I used to be: an ignorant Windows user.
If he is so concerned about the network security why doesn't he simply disable guest login?
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Guest login is disabled, I'm just concerned because my laptop is doing something erratic. It's funny because I've had this laptop since before the semester began, I don't think it's ever happened before (then again we could have just missed it). Alucard, my assumption is similar to yours. Something built in to OS X is seeking out visible domains and attempting to connect to them. I checked the console and system logs and couldn't find anything pertaining to a domain. The only strange thing I found during the approximate period of time that this occurred was

Nov 3 09:50:48 lappy486 launchproxy[324]: /usr/sbin/smbd: getnameinfo(): Non-recoverable failure in name resolution
Nov 3 09:50:48 lappy486 launchproxy[324]: /usr/sbin/smbd: getnameinfo(): Non-recoverable failure in name resolution

I don't know what most of this means. Perhaps I'll just paste the entire log during the 15 minutes or so that it occurred.
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Nov 3 09:35:34 localhost kernel[0]: Previous Shutdown Cause: 0
Nov 3 09:35:34 localhost kernel[0]: mac 10.3 phy 6.1 radio 10.2
Nov 3 09:35:34 localhost kernel[0]: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
Nov 3 09:35:34 localhost mDNSResponder-108.2 (Aug 25 2006 14: 50:48)[31]: starting
Nov 3 09:35:34 localhost memberd[38]: memberd starting up
Nov 3 09:35:35 localhost DirectoryService[42]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.2)
Nov 3 09:35:35 localhost lookupd[43]: lookupd (version 369.6) starting - Fri Nov 3 09:35:35 2006
Nov 3 09:35:35 localhost diskarbitrationd[37]: disk0s2 hfs 68E40B97-5386-302F-9CAE-EFF602E45553 The Lappy Drive /
Nov 3 09:35:36 localhost diskarbitrationd[37]: disk0s3 msdos 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 WINDOWS XP /Volumes/WINDOWS XP
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: yukonosx: Ethernet address 00:17:f2:29:8e:d7
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: AirPort_Athr5424: Ethernet address 00:17:f2:46:f5:78
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost launchd: Server 2d0b in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[43]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: Registering For 802.11 Events
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [HCIController][setupHardware] AFH Is Supported
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioDevice][start] 0x2acd380 (IOService)
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioDevice][initHardware] 0x2acd380
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioDevice][createAudioEngine]
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][init]
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][initHardware] 0x3431700
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][pauseAudioEngine] - numActiveClients = 0 - state = 0 - pendingPowerState = 1
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][createAudioStreams] sampleBuffer = 0x128bb000 (0x3c00 bytes)
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][initHardware] - done.
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][init]
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][initHardware] 0x3431700
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][pauseAudioEngine] - numActiveClients = 0 - state = 0 - pendingPowerState = 1
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][createAudioStreams] sampleBuffer = 0x128bf000 (0x3c00 bytes)
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioEngine][initHardware] - done.
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothSCOAudioDevice][registerForDeviceNotification]
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: unable to start recv logic
Nov 3 09:35:38 localhost kernel[0]: ath_chan_set: unable to restart recv logic
Nov 3 09:35:38 lappy486 configd[35]: setting hostname to "lappy486.local"
Nov 3 09:35:38 lappy486 lookupd[70]: lookupd (version 369.6) starting - Fri Nov 3 09:35:38 2006
Nov 3 09:35:39 lappy486 kernel[0]: display: Not usable
Nov 3 09:35:39 lappy486 /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
Nov 3 09:35:39 lappy486 loginwindow[73]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Nov 3 09:35:41 lappy486 mDNSResponder: Adding browse domain local.
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: Parallels Workstation Hypervisor started.
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: Parallels Workstation VMM Main driver started.
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: (140: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 sudo: root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kextload /System/Library/Extensions/speedit.kext
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: (140: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: (140: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:35:43 lappy486 kernel[0]: com_parallels_kext_Pvsvnic: Ethernet address 00:01:23:45:67:89
Nov 3 09:35:44 lappy486 SystemStarter[45]: Parallels VirtualMachine drivers (82) did not complete successfully
Nov 3 09:35:45 lappy486 kernel[0]: SpeedIt Kext is loading!
Nov 3 09:35:45 lappy486 SystemStarter[45]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Nov 3 09:35:45 lappy486 kernel[0]: Supported states
Nov 3 09:35:45 lappy486 SystemStarter[45]: /Library/StartupItems/Parallels
Nov 3 09:35:45 lappy486 SystemStarter[45]: - execution of Startup script failed
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 launchd: Server 0 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[70]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 configd[35]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-network
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 configd[35]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 lookupd[172]: lookupd (version 369.6) starting - Fri Nov 3 09:35:46 2006
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 ntpdate[186]: can't find host time.apple.com\n
Nov 3 09:35:46 lappy486 ntpdate[186]: no servers can be used, exiting
Nov 3 09:35:49 lappy486 configd[35]: target=enable-network: disabled
Nov 3 09:36:43 lappy486 crashdump[251]: HPEventHandler crashed
Nov 3 09:36:44 lappy486 crashdump[251]: crash report written to: /Users/hartmanj/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/HPEventHandler.crash.log
Nov 3 09:36:46 lappy486 kernel[0]: (67: coreservicesd)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:36:58 lappy486 kernel[0]: IOAudioStream[0x2b95000]::clipIfNecessary() - Error: attempting to clip to a position more than one buffer ahead of last clip position (0,734)->(1,1b11).
Nov 3 09:36:58 lappy486 kernel[0]: IOAudioStream[0x2b95000]::clipIfNecessary() - adjusting clipped position to (1,734)
Nov 3 09:37:06 lappy486 configd[35]: AppleTalk startup
Nov 3 09:37:09 lappy486 configd[35]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Nov 3 09:37:09 lappy486 lookupd[261]: lookupd (version 369.6) starting - Fri Nov 3 09:37:09 2006
Nov 3 09:37:12 lappy486 configd[35]: AppleTalk startup complete
Nov 3 09:41:40 lappy486 kernel[0]: jnl: journal start/end pointers reset! (jnl 0x2836d7c; s 0x432600 e 0x432600)
Nov 3 09:42:27 lappy486 kernel[0]: jnl: close: flushing the buffer cache (start 0x4b7200 end 0x4bb400)
Nov 3 09:50:48 lappy486 launchproxy[324]: /usr/sbin/smbd: getnameinfo(): Non-recoverable failure in name resolution
Nov 3 09:50:48 lappy486 launchproxy[324]: /usr/sbin/smbd: getnameinfo(): Non-recoverable failure in name resolution
Nov 3 09:58:50 lappy486 shutdown: halt by hartmanj:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 SystemStarter[415]: authentication service (427) did not complete successfully
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 sudo: root : TTY=console ; PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/speedit.kext
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (450: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (450: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (437: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (437: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (439: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (439: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: KEXT will be unloaded
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (463: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:51 lappy486 kernel[0]: (463: ps)tfp: failed on 0:
Nov 3 09:58:53 lappy486 kernel[0]: Parallels Workstation VMM Main driver exited.
Nov 3 09:58:53 lappy486 SystemStarter[415]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Nov 3 09:58:53 lappy486 kernel[0]: Parallels Workstation Hypervisor exited.
Nov 3 09:58:53 lappy486 SystemStarter[415]: /System/Library/StartupItems/AuthServer
Nov 3 09:59:34 localhost kernel[0]: hi mem tramps at 0xffe00000
Nov 3 09:59:34 localhost kernel[0]: PAE enabled
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Unfortunately i'm still learning OS X and unix but a couple things stood out in the log you posted. I understand most of it but since the unix services are different then Windows i may be a little off. now i may be on the wrong path but check this:

lookupd, is the daemon process through which all programs on the system request information about users and other machines on the network.

the log also said something about parallels. are you running XP within the Mac OS X?

The failuer in name resolution could be anything from DNS to it being unable to resolve a computer name to an IP.

Most important, do this: Launch the application Directory Access in the folder Utilities in Applications. When the box opens see if your Active Directory services area is checked. If it is highlight it and select configure and see if it has your domain in there. Then go to the authentication tab and see if your domain is listed. i noticed the /System/Library/StartupItems/AuthServer part in your log. not sure exactly what that is but it may be part of the Active Directory services.

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I was running Parallels with WindowsXP earlier, but I have since uninstalled it (although I guess it wasn't completely uninstalled). I checked on the Active Directory service, it wasn't even checked. Inside there is nothing regarding our domain here at Ferrum. The information you've supplied on lookupd is very interesting. I'm still suspicious though. It's one thing if the computer requests information about others on the network, it's another if it finds the ferrum.edu domain, decides to pick an account name "guest" with no password, and then attempts to join. Doesn't that strike you as a little to "reachy outty"? I'm also perplexed since one other Mac on campus (a school owned mac being used in the Public Relations Department) seems to have done the same thing at a very close time to this event. I know that there are other macs on campus (both school and student owned), this is really weird and disappointing because it's just adding fuel to the anti-mac fire.
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I was running Parallels with WindowsXP earlier, but I have since uninstalled it (although I guess it wasn't completely uninstalled). I checked on the Active Directory service, it wasn't even checked. Inside there is nothing regarding our domain here at Ferrum. The information you've supplied on lookupd is very interesting. I'm still suspicious though. It's one thing if the computer requests information about others on the network, it's another if it finds the ferrum.edu domain, decides to pick an account name "guest" with no password, and then attempts to join. Doesn't that strike you as a little to "reachy outty"? I'm also perplexed since one other Mac on campus (a school owned mac being used in the Public Relations Department) seems to have done the same thing at a very close time to this event. I know that there are other macs on campus (both school and student owned), this is really weird and disappointing because it's just adding fuel to the anti-mac fire.
If the right services are setup anything is possible I will try and do some more digging to see what i can find. Its a good learning experiance for me as well. The answer has to be somewhere Have you ever connected to a domain using your Mac?
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It's one thing if the computer requests information about others on the network, it's another if it finds the ferrum.edu domain, decides to pick an account name "guest" with no password, and then attempts to join. Doesn't that strike you as a little to "reachy outty"?
It might not be trying to guess a name at all. Windows network servers can be configured to map 'anonymous' attempts to a specific local user. If the mac is just using Bonjour (a.k.a. Rendezvous) to scout out shares, the domain controller may just be mapping the anonymous browse attempt as a 'guest' login attempt and log that. Put simply - it's most likely the admin throwing a wobbler because he doesn't precisely understand what's going on.
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I had an idea that Bonjour was a player in this issue. It makes sense that it would be out in the network looking for anything and everything shared. If Windows really would record this as an attempted logon via "Guest", I'd love to be able to duplicate it or at least find other people with the same issue.
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It might not be trying to guess a name at all. Windows network servers can be configured to map 'anonymous' attempts to a specific local user. If the mac is just using Bonjour (a.k.a. Rendezvous) to scout out shares, the domain controller may just be mapping the anonymous browse attempt as a 'guest' login attempt and log that. Put simply - it's most likely the admin throwing a wobbler because he doesn't precisely understand what's going on.
Very good point. I am not that familiar with bonjour but from what i have read it could possibly be the one trying to link up to the network.
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Does Bonjour really deal with domains? I was under the impression it simply searched all of the computers by subnet, by IP only. I didn't know it even had the functionality to deal with computers in the sense of what domain the belonged to.
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