03-04-2005, 12:08 AM #1MichaelSullivanGuestDecided against Airport Extreme, here's why..
I was considering the AExtreme, but after reading the reviews on CNet, no way. My Local CompUSA had all the powerbooks hooked up to both AExtreme AND a Belkin from a distance of not more than 10 feet. I frequently was dropped from the AExtreme, and even though it showed 3 or 4 bars, safari had trouble connecting. Switch to the Belkin, and a major difference... no drops, full 5 bars, easy surfing with no problems. Switching to and from the Belkin? No problem, I was surfing instantly. Switching to and from the AExtreme? Nearly a problem every time, and in many cases it showed that I was connected to the AE, even though safari refused to connect.
So then, I'm thinking... how is the AExpress, which got good ratings? No way because I can get a Belkin Pre-N router, which has better ratings & range than both, for the price of an AExpress.
AExtreme: $199 http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_AirPor...-20852329.html
Editors' rating:6.9 Fair
Average user rating:7.6 Good (from 20 users)
The good:Excellent performance in an 802.11g-only network at close range; attractive design; solid security; allows network bridging.
The baderformance drops in mixed-mode (802.11b and 802.11g) environment; has a short range; weak tech support; only two Ethernet ports; doesn't include an Ethernet cable.
The bottom line:The AirPort Extreme performs well in a close-knit 802.11g network, but it's not fast enough in mixed mode to warrant upgrading.
AExpress: $119 http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_AirPor...-30910240.html
Editors' rating:8.1 Very good
Average user rating:Be one of the first to rate this product!
The good:Windows and Apple compatible; works as a USB print server; streams digital music via iTunes; excellent performance; WDS capable.
The bad:No browser-based configuration; no SPI firewall; lacks configurable port filtering; no built-in interface for audio control.
What's it for:Adding Wi-Fi to a wired network, bridging two LANs, repeating Wi-Fi signals, printing over a network, and streaming digital audio with iTunes.
Who's it for:iTunes/iPod fans interested in setting up or adding onto an existing wireless network.
Business use:File sharing and network printing.
Essential extras:A wireless adapter for your computer.
The bottom line:This is among the best compact wireless-networking devices available.
Belkin Pre-N: $118 http://reviews.cnet.com/Belkin_Wirel...-30993672.html
Editors' rating:8.4 Very good
Average user rating:
The good:Fast; great range; simple setup; includes software for both Windows and Mac.
The badricey; requires MIMO adapter to achieve its full potential.
What's it for:Setting up a wireless network.
Who's it for:Those looking for a long-range wireless solution, say, someone with a big house or a large office.
Business use:Sharing an Internet connection; standard file and printer sharing.
Essential extras:You'll need Belkin's Pre-N PC Card adapter to take full advantage of the router's range.
The bottom line:If you're looking for a router with great range, this is it.
03-04-2005, 02:35 PM #2
Just my own experiences
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I usually don't trust CompUSA (or BestBuy, etc) example demos, they're usually setup and configured by someone who you wouldn't want near your own computer equipment for a number of reasons.
I use both an Airport Extreme, and Airport Express.
I get great range in my home, even back out to my shop/garage which is about 60 feet from the base station, with about 6 walls in the way. The Airport Express adds greater range with WDS, I also use it for Airtunes and it works nicely.
But, everyone has their own preference and luck of the draw.
I do have a Netgear MR814 802.11b that I used for a couple years before I got an Extreme and it's worked great during the two years it was in operation.
And my background is not predominately Apple, been a PC-type for 20 years, and Apple-type for about the last five.
03-04-2005, 03:01 PM #3MichaelSullivanGuest
Well, I wouldn't usually trust CompUSA because I also feel that they know little. However, CNet reported the same kinds of problems that I experienced at CompUSA. Also, with the Belkin getting much better reviews and reports plus it just worked better in the store-I'll be going with it. Three antennas, each can transmit data seperately... thats just amazing.
Heck, the additional antenna needed to extend the range of the AirportExtreme is $99 ("ExtendAIR Omni Antenna") which is just $20 less than the belking. That would be about $300 to get the airportExtreme up to what *might be the level of the $118 Belkin. Yikes!
03-04-2005, 03:16 PM #4pstauffGuest
My Airport Extreme card in my iBook is impressive. It picks up signals most of my friends cannot with their laptops. At home I run a combo Westell DSL modem/router. It works great with my Airport Extreme card. So the base station doesn't matter. Go with whatever floats your boat.
03-04-2005, 05:31 PM #5menace3054Guest
yea but the airport extreme just looks sooo cool! lol. i agree with you 100% i had a linksys router, and i decided to replace it with the AE router soley base on a) looks and b) i wanted everything apple so it integrated nicely. Right now, i am no more than 30 centimeters away from my router and I do not have full signal. if i go into the other side of my house, forget it.
03-04-2005, 08:42 PM #6MichaelSullivanGuestOriginally Posted by pstauff
I'm talking about the Airport Extreme BASE STATION, not the card. Of course the base station matters... its what puts out the signal! :blind:
03-05-2005, 12:28 AM #7
i never even thought to buy an airport. they are too over priced. i just bought a wireless linksys router and i works with my iBook just fine.
03-06-2005, 01:23 AM #8i2oadi2unnei2Guest
Hrmmm... Whenever I read a device that is "Pre-N", one my eyebrows raises. I won't go into full detail but hey, if it works, great!
Most apple products has an asthetic appeal to it and I'd love to get every apple products, but I prefer to stick with what I know works and understand...Cisco :cool:
03-06-2005, 10:27 AM #9MichaelSullivanGuestOriginally Posted by i2oadi2unnei2
Hopefully you don't purchase products based on what they look like, in this case the airport extreme would be a big mistake. The Pre-N designation simply refers to the standards that it supports:
Since the 802.11n standard won't be finalized until next year, its called a pre-n router. Incidentially, this router did better than any others including Cisco. It also puts out less interference, and ignores interference better than other routers.
03-06-2005, 05:37 PM #10i2oadi2unnei2GuestOriginally Posted by MichaelSullivan
03-06-2005, 10:01 PM #11MichaelSullivanGuestOriginally Posted by i2oadi2unnei2
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