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What makes macs better at creating things?


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Sorry for the n00b question, but what exactly makes a mac better for video editing and image manipulation? Is it the operating system, or is it the hardware?

Which would work better? A mac running photoshop or the same mac with xp on bootcamp running photoshop?

It has been repeated over and over that macs are better for creation i just wanna know why!

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Better is relative.

There are far more people using Avid or Premiere on PCs in the professional community.

As for the comparison, I would be interested in seeing the results to that test as well. Photoshop on my iMac seems to run faster than Photoshop on my HP at work...but once again, relative.

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Sorry for the n00b question, but what exactly makes a mac better for video editing and image manipulation? Is it the operating system, or is it the hardware?

Which would work better? A mac running photoshop or the same mac with xp on bootcamp running photoshop?

It has been repeated over and over that macs are better for creation i just wanna know why!

-thnx
A misconception born of truth. The old Mac chips were better at rendering graphics compared to the pc chips at the time. This was back in the 80's mind you. And it just kind of stuck. A lot of creative type jobs use macs and just upgraded them instead of switching to PC's, so you have everyone using them, then they must be better at programs used to design videos and art and photos.

Truth is, OS X can run programs Windows can't and Windows can run programs OS X can't, but both OS's that run the same programs can do so just about equally as well provided that the program is UB for OS X, so pick which one you like and go with it.

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I think it's the environment. I believe that environment influences output. Since the mac has always had such an elegant interface, mac people created nicer output.
Or perhaps the people that are capable of creating better output, went to the mac because of it's more beautiful interface...
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Well Adobe pulled Mac development for Premiere in the late 90s early 2000s because Adobe got its panties in a bunch because Apple came up with Final Cut which was a direct competitor. They have recently started making a Mac version, I think it was announced about a year ago. So it's understandable more people work with Premiere on a Winbox than on a Mac and from what I remember of the app when I used it, Mac users didn't miss out on much. LOL

One thing no one has mentioned yet is that colour management on the Mac is far superior on the Mac than on Windoze.
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On a related (yet unrelated) track - it's like the legal profession.
you'll find a number of them use WordPerfect in lieu of MS Word because "back in the day' WordPerfect offered features useful to the field that Office did not.
Even if Office does now, many that I've spoken to still use WordPerfect because "it's what I use, my boss uses, my instructors used...".

Consider this little story:
Five monkeys are put a steel mesh cage. The cage has shower hoses mounted above it, and these are connected to a supply of iced water. A banana is suspended from the roof of the cage, and a ladder is placed beneath the banana, so that a monkey who climbs the ladder can reach the banana.

When a monkey climbs the ladder and touches the banana a trigger sets of the water system, and all of the monkeys in the cage are showered with iced water. After a period of time the monkeys learn to leave the banana alone.

One of the monkeys is then replaced. Of course, the new monkey knows nothing about the iced water, and it attempts to climb the ladder for the banana. This monkey is quickly seized by the other monkeys and there is a fight. Eventually the new monkey learns that it will be beaten up by the other monkeys if it attempts to climb the ladder.

Another of the original monkeys is replaced, and the process is repeated.

Eventually all of the original monkeys have been replaced, and none of the monkeys now in the cage have had the experience of the iced water. The iced water system is removed. However, none of the monkeys will climb the ladder. Why?

If you could ask any of the monkeys you would be given the same answer as any humans so often give,

I dont know, but I've been in this cage for a long time, and that's how it's always been"
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Well said MHC and I really do like what voiceofra posted. I see that kind of thing daily most weeks except with human beings.
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On a related (yet unrelated) track - it's like the legal profession.
you'll find a number of them use WordPerfect in lieu of MS Word because "back in the day' WordPerfect offered features useful to the field that Office did not.
Even if Office does now, many that I've spoken to still use WordPerfect because "it's what I use, my boss uses, my instructors used...".

Consider this little story:
Five monkeys are put a steel mesh cage. The cage has shower hoses mounted above it, and these are connected to a supply of iced water. A banana is suspended from the roof of the cage, and a ladder is placed beneath the banana, so that a monkey who climbs the ladder can reach the banana.

When a monkey climbs the ladder and touches the banana a trigger sets of the water system, and all of the monkeys in the cage are showered with iced water. After a period of time the monkeys learn to leave the banana alone.

One of the monkeys is then replaced. Of course, the new monkey knows nothing about the iced water, and it attempts to climb the ladder for the banana. This monkey is quickly seized by the other monkeys and there is a fight. Eventually the new monkey learns that it will be beaten up by the other monkeys if it attempts to climb the ladder.

Another of the original monkeys is replaced, and the process is repeated.

Eventually all of the original monkeys have been replaced, and none of the monkeys now in the cage have had the experience of the iced water. The iced water system is removed. However, none of the monkeys will climb the ladder. Why?

If you could ask any of the monkeys you would be given the same answer as any humans so often give,

I dont know, but I've been in this cage for a long time, and that's how it's always been"
So who exactly are the monkeys in this story?


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LOL! nice one baggsss
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Those who follow blindly and would rather form opinions based on popular belief than personal experience. Those who still believe that Macs are better at creativity than Windows PCs because "that's how it's always been" instead of reasons mentioned here.

I love that story. I've worked with plenty of these monkeys in the past.

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Well there it is. Thanks alot. LOL those commercials with pc v mac weren't long enuff to explain all the technicalities. It was easier just to call the PC guy a nerd over and over.
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I used to use Premier on a PC and I couldn't stand it. After switching to Final Cut I honestly cannot envision going back. Whether that means Mac is better at creativity is debatable. I chose Mac for the integration, stability, ease-of-use and the elegance of the UI both within the OS and in it's Programs.
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Nothing. The displays are nice though.

Anything you can do with a MAC you can do with a PC..creativity is in the person and not their tools. Your computer is a tool, the MAC just runs better IMO

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the history and monkies aside, what giulio said was what i was thinking before i even opened this thread.

when you're not cursing at your tools it's easier to maintain a creative mindset. anger and frustration at the world may be fuel to the creative fire, but the same felt for your medium is just a p.i.t.a.

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the history and monkies aside, what giulio said was what i was thinking before i even opened this thread.

when you're not cursing at your tools it's easier to maintain a creative mindset. anger and frustration at the world may be fuel to the creative fire, but the same felt for your medium is just a p.i.t.a.
Funny you should say that. My neighbor and I were just talking tonight about Stress and anger and how it hurts productivity. I got the chance to mention to him since going with OSX I spend almost no time getting angry and stressed and more getting work done. He understood and agreed.
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