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evolve 03-31-2006 08:59 PM

iPhoto or Adobe Elements?
 
Im so used to just going into my picture folder from the hard drive and using spotlight to find a picture i want. I noticed though a lot of people use iPhoto to organize and sort through their photos. I've used Adobe Elements before on my windoze computer but alway went back to the old picture folder. What do you guys use? any benefits of either? Is there something about iPhoto that I'm missing or don't know about? :blind: I ask because I dont understand why images are stored in the "picture" folder on the HD, but a program like iPhoto or adobe elements exists. :confused: Options? is that pretty much why? Anyway, your input is greatly apreciated....

...BTW I currently have PhotoShop CS on my mac. :p

BigBear 03-31-2006 09:21 PM

this was always something about iphoto that i didn't really get. iphoto is a photo organization app. you will still need some sort of external photo editting program like adobe elements. i use photoedit.
iphoto to organize your photos.
adobe photoshop cs/ elements or other photo image editing app. for everything else.

evolve 03-31-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear
this was always something about iphoto that i didn't really get. iphoto is a photo organization app. you will still need some sort of external photo editting program like adobe elements. i use photoedit.
iphoto to organize your photos.
adobe photoshop cs/ elements or other photo image editing app. for everything else.

what about just organizing them in the picture folder they are all already in? doesnt that do the samething as iPhoto?

macAttack 03-31-2006 09:43 PM

doesn't CS have the photo bridge? doesn't that do what iphoto does?

BigBear 03-31-2006 09:49 PM

yeah i think that would work. iphoto just give the whole thing a nice interface. i guess the same could be said about itunes as well. you can organize all your songs in the folders they already are in but itunes gives it a nice interface.

mraya 03-31-2006 09:54 PM

Of course not. Think about all the limitations you have in Finder with previews, first you can only make the preview up to 128x128, Finder can't show you the exif information of your photos, if you want to keep the originals of your photos you would have to make backups by yourself, iPhoto does that automatically, or if you want to do quick changes to the picture you would have to open Photoshop/Elements/other, also you have the shortcuts in iPhoto to publish, email, print and more.
In my own experience, it was hard to start using iPhoto because it changes all the structure you may have in your folders but now i really like it.

djmitch 04-01-2006 01:35 AM

I'm with "evolve" on this one - I have an intricate series of folders and sub-folders created during my Window$ days that I moved onto my Mac when I made the big switch last year. However, I'm afraid that iPhoto is going to screw that all up if I start playing with it. I even tried with great frustration last summer to duplicate this folder system in iPhoto but all that ended up happening was iPhoto organizing it according to dates. I, like "evolve", like having files with descriptive names instead of the generic names assigned by my digital camera and photos organized by iPhoto by their dates.

That said, I really wish I wasn't afraid of iPhoto. It's like I've been poking it with a stick every few months but not getting the point of it, but this bugs me because I like all the other iLife applications very much. I wish I could 'see the light', so to speak!

Your comments, "mraya", were encouraging and helped me see the light a little bit, but I still like having folders in my Pictures folder for "family", "friends", "kids", etc. plus sub-folders within these for specific events and family names and so forth. How could I duplicate this system of organization in iPhoto, or is there really a need in your opinion? Is there another way around this dilemma in iPhoto do you think?

[By the way, for the record, I use Fuji's "FinePixViewer" to import photos onto my Mac from my camera, then to organize and view them, and Photoshop Elements to do any editing.]

oldnews 04-02-2006 01:09 PM

I like iPhoto, though I found it a bit confusing when I first started using. I really like all the small features it has in it, like the slide show feature etc. I really like the calander feature so that you can click a month and it will show you all the pictures you uploaded during that month. Also the GROWL type message that hovers over the thumbdails when scrolling your library, changing to the month that the pictures below it were taken.

I don't normally edit my photo's with iPhoto, but on occasion I do use the 'enhance' feature, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't.

scottwdw 04-06-2006 07:25 PM

I, too, have been poking at iPhoto. I got iLife '05 when I got my refurbished PB G4 a month ago. I'm not as afraid of iPhoto as I once was and this is why. It does work just like iTunes which I do like a lot.

Here's why I'm beginning to see the iPhoto light. I copied my photo folder structure I had on my Dell Laptop to the PB in the pictures folder. I found out I can drop a folder into iPhoto and it will create an album with the folder's name and place all the photos into that album thus perserving my folder names. Now, I don't believe you can have a sub-album but you can rename them once you get them into iPhoto.

I've only done this with a few folder so far. Comtemplating upgrading to iLife '06 which is supposed to allow you to keep your folder structure. I need to read up on that.

Of course, I first put Nikon's freebie View and Editor on which I used on the Dell. I own a Nikon D70 and it works just like the Windows version. I am waiting for Nikon's new Capture NX to come out in May before I completely decide on iPhoto.

BTW, have you tried the Ligthroom Beta yet? It's slow on my PB but it looks like a viable upgrade to iPhoto with much better editing.

Yea, still on the fence about which way to go on my PB with my photos.

BigBear 04-06-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scottwdw
It does work just like iTunes which I do like a lot.

once i realized this (duh, i know) it made it a lot easier. :dummy:

scottwdw 04-07-2006 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scottwdw
Now, I don't believe you can have a sub-album but you can rename them once you get them into iPhoto.

After viewing the video on this page on Apple's iPhoto tutorial: Organizing Your Photos , I learned you can create Folders and put in as many albums as you want.

For example, I created a folder called England for all my photos from my vacation. I put in two albums so far to show my pictures from Bath and London. I could further create albums inside the England folder into other subjects like British Musuem, Big Ben, London Tower, etc. Again, this is like iTunes playlists with sub-lists inside.

I'm beginning to like how this could work to create custom slideshows etc. very quickly without loosing my initial organization.

Aptmunich 04-09-2006 10:14 AM

iphoto 6 now also has an option to preserve your original file structure if that's the way you want to do it...

I haven't tried it though!


EDIT:

Well of course I had to go and try it after all :)
(I tried this with a new test album: Hold down 'option' when launching iPhoto to create a new collection)

It works just as advertised: It leaves your folder structure intact, and only saves thumbnails and modified images to its own library folder.

BurntSmore 04-11-2006 12:42 AM

Look into iView Media Pro 3. It's well worth the money. Great organization app and has a built image editor which is quite adequate for many tasks.

VanillaEps 04-25-2006 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aptmunich
iphoto 6 now also has an option to preserve your original file structure if that's the way you want to do it...

I haven't tried it though!


EDIT:

Well of course I had to go and try it after all :)
(I tried this with a new test album: Hold down 'option' when launching iPhoto to create a new collection)

It works just as advertised: It leaves your folder structure intact, and only saves thumbnails and modified images to its own library folder.

Which version of iPhoto comes with the MBP? I'm having a hard time accepting its file structure....and where is this option found?

scottwdw 04-25-2006 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaEps
Which version of iPhoto comes with the MBP? I'm having a hard time accepting its file structure....and where is this option found?

iPhoto 6 was announced at the same time as the MBPs so you should have iLife '06. Make sure you do a software update to get the latest versions.

I'm not sure where the option is to leave your originals in their locations...check iPhoto's preferences? I'm at work without my PB so I can't pull it up and Apple's iPhoto areas doesn't mention it. :biohazard


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