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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Stan View Post
    The subscription for the Adobe CS6 Cloud versions allows you to use all programs on two computers, which can be either PC's or Mac's. Also, the programs do download to your local computer so you do not need to be connected to the internet to use them.
    Yeah, that is actually how I use it now. I use it on my iMac Desktop and on my Windows Laptop with no problems.

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    Yes, just for the record:

    1. Adobe CC is *not* a cloud-based program or suite. It is a program or programs that live *on your local hard drive.* You are paying whatever you are paying (the monthly fee) to use them, and your subscription is *validated* through an Internet connection.

    2. You can work offline for *weeks* before a validation check is required.

    3. If your subscription lapses for whatever reason, you can still open the work you did in Photoshop in other programs like Pixelmator, which read native Photoshop files. You just won't be able to use *CC* again until you restart your subscription.

    Just trying to clear up some misconceptions -- I have not signed up for CC (I'm using Adobe CS3 in Mavericks, thanks) and don't use the programs often enough to justify a subscription to the full CC suite, so I'm shilling for Adobe here. IMHO the $10/month PS & LR deal currently running till the end of the month is a pretty good deal for those who can get by on just PS, but my machine doesn't meet the specs for it anyway.

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    Just downloaded the trial for Pixelmator and immediately don't like the all black background. I wonder if you can change it? I noticed their webpage is also black and difficult to see. I also cannot see any facility to watermark images? Any users out there?
    Last edited by cheddar-caveman; 03-19-2014 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddar-caveman View Post
    Just downloaded the trial for Pixelmator and immediately don't like the all black background. I wonder if you can change it? I noticed their webpage is also black and difficult to see. I also cannot see any facility to watermark images? Any users out there?
    Concerning your first point, see pic attached of Pixelmator opened on a second desktop - do you mean the black background on the three windows of the app? I've had no problem especially in the main window where the photo editing is done - maybe just some time w/ the program will help accustom you to the appearance?

    As to the 'watermark' question, I've not had a need but was curious - found this one reference HERE on their website - let us know if that helps; hopefully, others who have used watermarks w/ this program will 'chime in' - Dave
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    Many thanks RadDave, most helpful. Yes, the three black boxes and these cannot be changed according to the manufacturer. The editing window is quite small as well don't you find? There's so much wasted space on the desk top, Yes one can enlarge the view but then you lose the other two boxes.
    Any way, as I said, I've got the trial package for 30 days so I'll play with it.

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    Photoshop Elements?

    Sometimes Amazon has the latest version on mega offer...or eBay. When I upgraded to Elements 11 I actually sold my version 10 on eBay for more than I paid Amazon for version 11. Guess some people don't shop around.

    Amazon recently offered version 12 of Elements for 46. Not in any rush to upgrade this time and besides it will be cheaper still in a few months I reckon.
    Experience teaches you to recognise a mistake when you make it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddar-caveman View Post
    Many thanks RadDave, most helpful. Yes, the three black boxes and these cannot be changed according to the manufacturer. The editing window is quite small as well don't you find? There's so much wasted space on the desk top, Yes one can enlarge the view but then you lose the other two boxes.
    Any way, as I said, I've got the trial package for 30 days so I'll play with it.
    Hi again! Yes, I agree about the editing window, especially on my 15" MBPro (much better on my 21.5" iMac) - options to enlarge the window as you suggested, using the zooming tools (see my new attached pic w/ the white arrows - zoomed in on the image), and use the 'full screen' mode on the editing window (right upper corner); but worth 'playing with' for a few days - the online tutorials are short and will give you a quicker feel for the app. Dave
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    You could put the palettes on a second monitor, that's what I do.

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    Oooo, lucky you! I can only just afford one monitor
    Yes, thank RadDave, that looks ok. I've got 30 days to play before buy so experiment time! AS a matter of interest, is that a screen shot or photo? Very good whatever.
    I'm also running a MacBook Pro 15" Retina (nice bit of kit!).

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    Pixelmator a awesome program and is far far better option then PS Elements.. PM also supports FULL 16bit color, while PSE only supports 8bit.. Something to consider. Now, I do hope they offer the option like adobe does to change the application background. The overly black is a tad to dark for many users and is pretty much the only real complaint you here about it from other users. I find it OK, but from a UI point of view its to dark for some of the application tool buttons to be easy to see. Though if it was white I would flip out big time..

    GIMP is good, was great at one time. But as much as I love GIMP its falling behind. Hell lets be honest, they fell behind 5 years ago.. There has been no real innovation to GIMP since then. But its free.

    Last I would like to piggy back on Chas's post about Adobe CC. They are offering until the end of this month (March 31st, 2014) the Photographers Package for $9.99 plus tax. It includes Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop as well as Behance. Both Lr and Ps are installed on your computer. If you do a yearly subscription you will only be billed monthly, so no huge lump some of money at one time. In addition you can go offline and only required to have a inet connection once every 90 days.. So making travel easy. If you dont do the yearly special offer, you will have to choose monthly service which is about $20 USD and will be required to login once every 30 days.. Its really a good deal, it makes Ps and Lr both cheaper then buying them as before and you automatically get the latest updates/upgrades at no additional cost..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddar-caveman View Post
    Oooo, lucky you! I can only just afford one monitor
    Yes, thank RadDave, that looks ok. I've got 30 days to play before buy so experiment time! AS a matter of interest, is that a screen shot or photo? Very good whatever.
    I'm also running a MacBook Pro 15" Retina (nice bit of kit!).
    A photo brought into Pixelmator of my den bar; the art work is a limited edition linocut done by an aboriginal artist from the Northern Territory, Australia. Dave

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    Been using Pixelmator for a week now and getting to like it more and more! I can also use it any (Mac) computer so will now buy and install on both my iMac and MacBook Pro. I've been pestering them with questions and their replies are always very quick and to the point and their tutorials are very good as well. What more could one want for 20!

    Very annoying and beware. Pixelmator only works with OS x 10.8.5 and above. Just checked my iMac and it's 10.7.5 so am currently updating to Mavericks!
    Last edited by cheddar-caveman; 03-26-2014 at 12:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPulsar View Post
    Does anyone know if there are any free graphics programs for Macs besides Gimp? I am used to Photoshop but it won't work on my Mac because it is made for PC. I don't want to install Windows or any software that will allow PC programs to work. I am just looking for something for Macs, thanks.
    Hi CPulsar,
    GImp really one of the best and has most of the functionality of Photoshop. A good manual for GImp is available online.
    If your copy of Photoshop is registered to you, Adobe will give you the version for your Mac. My first copy was given to me, so I ended up having to purchase the stand alone version of CS6. Had my PC version been registered to me, I would have contacted Adobe, and they are most co-operative in making things work for registered users. I still did OK, because Best Buy where we have spent large amounts of money, discounted CS6 to us at less than half price, and I now have a registered copy with all benefits. I just don't do the Creative Cloud deal, because I refuse to pay for new updates which I would probably never use! The downside is....no updates what so ever! We live with our choices!
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    In addition to wishing I could edit my previous comment (which meant to say that I'm *not* shilling for Adobe), I thought I'd update to say that I decided to go ahead with the $10/month Lightroom/PS/etc deal and so far it's been fine. Haven't gotten into Photoshop much yet, but will when I get my plug-ins updated. Lightroom is nice for working with RAW files but I'm not mad about it.

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