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theymademedoit 01-17-2014 04:34 AM

Airplay lag/stuttering fix...but not ideal.
 
I was hoping someone could help me with a problem I am having.
I just bought Apple TV 3rd gen and it all seems pretty good until I try and extend the monitor using Airplay to stream.
The video is laggy and stutters. Its ok when I play content directly from ITunes and when I use Beamer, however I also use XBMC and want to stream it to my TV downstairs.
I tried a few things and it did seem to fix it but it isnít a usable fix.
I did the following Ė
In the display preferences I set it up to best match the Apple TV
I changed the ATV internet connection from WIFI to Ethernet as the router is next to the ATV
I tested it stream after I changed the above settings and it was still stuttering.
I then went into my router settings and change the band from 2.4 to 5 and tried it again.
The stuttering stopped and it works greatÖ..HOWEVER, my Wi-Fi signal on my mobile phone is now terrible despite changing the band on it to also use 5.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can sustain this fix so that my other Wi-Fi devices wonít suffer?
Cheers!

mrplow 01-17-2014 08:38 AM

1. You could get a dual-band router so that you have separate 2.4 and 5ghz wireless networks.

2. You can run an ethernet cable from the machine running iTunes to the router

3. You could use ethernet over power adapters (homeplugs) if it's not feasible to run ethernet from pc/Mac to router

4. You could use a wireless extender between your PC/Mac and router as the crux of the issue seems to be a poor wireless signal between those two devices.

theymademedoit 01-17-2014 08:44 AM

Many thanks, will something like this work?
TP-Link TL-PA211KIT AV200 Nano 200Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

mrplow 01-17-2014 08:46 AM

Yes, perfect. Try and connect them to a wall socket directly rather than an extension lead for best results.

theymademedoit 01-17-2014 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrplow (Post 1562487)
Yes, perfect. Try and connect them to a wall socket directly rather than an extension lead for best results.

Great,,,so in theory I should be able to switch back from 5ghz to 2.4ghz....I will get them and try!

mrplow 01-17-2014 08:54 AM

Yes. You can switch back to 2.4ghz because your PC/Mac---router---AppleTV connections will all be via cable.

theymademedoit 01-28-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrplow (Post 1562489)
Yes. You can switch back to 2.4ghz because your PC/Mac---router---AppleTV connections will all be via cable.

Hi
I got my powerline extensions but I can't figure out how to set them up. To give you an idea of my set-up I have my Mac Mini upstairs and I have a wireless Internet running to that (I am streaming to the TV downstairs using the Mac Mini).
Downstairs I have my Apple TV, Router and TV.

Do I simply have one of the powerline extensions upstairs where the Mac Mini is then connect it to the Mac Mini via ethernet cable and then downstairs have the other powerline and connect that via ethernet cable to the router and then another ethernet cable running from the router to the Apple TV?

To remind you of my intentions I want to stream from the Mac Mini upstairs to my Apple TV downstairs. I can do this fine with 5ghz selected on the router but if I go with 2.4ghz its stutters.
I canít keep it on 5ghz as my girlfreinds iPhone is only 2.4ghz

Cheers and I hope that made sense.
Al

pigoo3 01-28-2014 01:59 PM

Since you have these devices in different rooms & on different floors in your home...have you tested to see how consistent your internet speeds are? These devices could vary in speed due to their locations. Walls, floors, different construction materials, and distance from the wireless router call all effect wireless speed/signal strength.

I would suggest using a website like:

Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test

...to test your wiresless internet speeds in the various locations in your home.

The stuttering you're experiencing could be due to differences in speed/signal strength in the different rooms. Or it could be to due to variation in the actual internet speed you are getting from your internet service provider. Depending on your service...the internet speeds can vary during the day depending on demand from other users in your area/neighborhood.

- Nick

mrplow 01-28-2014 02:11 PM

Connect one by ethernet to your mini and one by ethernet to your AppleTV

theymademedoit 01-29-2014 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrplow (Post 1564407)
Connect one by ethernet to your mini and one by ethernet to your AppleTV

Hi mate,
Thanks for your reply.
Can I just confirm (no instructions came with the powerlines - its these ones - HP200PT64BT-OL - Detailed item view - Simpler Networks are Home Networking Specialists -HomePlug Powerline Ethernet Adapters)

Upstairs -
Mac Mini to Powerline 1 via Ethernet
Downstairs -
Apple TV to powerline 2 via Ethernet

Do I not need any Ethernet connection from the roouter to anything?

I find it so odd that 5ghz is meant to be only good if you are close to the router yet the stream is smooth with the router being on a different floor to the streaming source.
One would have thought 2.4ghz would be better?

mrplow 01-29-2014 04:48 AM

As I mentioned from the start ethernet cable as much as you can. I can't picture where all you're kit is but your issue seems to be getting content from your mini to your AppleTV.

The recommendation for the powerline adapters was to negate the need for wifi in the areas causing problems. So try them on Mac and the ATV, then try on the router and ATV then try on the router and Mac. It's going to be a bit of an experiment to find the weak spot and bridge it.

As for your comments on wifi. The answer is, like with any kind of wireless connection, maybe, possibly, could do, perhaps and we'll see.
There are so many variables in wireless comms (house structure, competing products, local interference, wiring, device capability etc etc). No being funny, it's just that until you get wifi in a particular place it's near impossible to predict it's performance with any certainty

theymademedoit 01-29-2014 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrplow (Post 1564523)
As I mentioned from the start ethernet cable as much as you can. I can't picture where all you're kit is but your issue seems to be getting content from your mini to your AppleTV.

The recommendation for the powerline adapters was to negate the need for wifi in the areas causing problems. So try them on Mac and the ATV, then try on the router and ATV then try on the router and Mac. It's going to be a bit of an experiment to find the weak spot and bridge it.

As for your comments on wifi. The answer is, like with any kind of wireless connection, maybe, possibly, could do, perhaps and we'll see.
There are so many variables in wireless comms (house structure, competing products, local interference, wiring, device capability etc etc). No being funny, it's just that until you get wifi in a particular place it's near impossible to predict it's performance with any certainty

Hi I understand what you are saying and I will experiment with it.
Can I ask if its possible to use 3 ethernets?
Upstairs - Mac mini>powerline
Down stairs - Router>powerline and then router>apple tv

mrplow 01-29-2014 04:56 AM

Yes that's perfectly fine and it's that's possible that's the best solution

theymademedoit 01-31-2014 08:02 AM

Well I tried it.....
I tried the following set up.
Upstairs Mac Mini to Powerline (into mains) via Ethernet.
Downstairs Apple TV to router via Ethernet and router to Powerline via Ethernet.
It still doesn’t run well on 2.4ghz but does on 5ghz.
I have tried the above with the WIFI turned on and off on the Mac Mini and it’s still no good. I should also point out that my down speed drops to around 40mb when using the Powerline.
Am I setting this all up incorrectly?
Is it a setting within my network settings in my Mac or on the Apple TV?
Could it be anything to do with refresh rate between the 3 devices?
I am willing to try anything!!!
Cheers,

mrplow 01-31-2014 08:07 AM

What specification are the powerline adapters?
Are they plugged directly into a wall socket?
How are you measuring network speeds?

If you move the Mac Mini (temporarily) next to the router so the router, ATV and Mac are all directly ethernet cabled how does it perform?


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