Apple in Court over UNIX Name

schweb · schweb #1 (**permalink**)

06-11-2003, 09:15 PM

Source: News.com

As legal battles heat up over who owns the rights to the Unix operating system, another dispute has been quietly simmering over the rights to the Unix name itself.

Apple Computer is being sued by The Open Group, the San Francisco company that claims ownership of the Unix trademark, for using the term Unix in conjunction with its Mac OS X operating system without a license. Apple has countersued, asking a judge to declare that the trademark is invalid, because the term Unix has become generic.

rman · rman #2 (**permalink**)

06-11-2003, 10:26 PM

Didn't AT&T and berkley create Unix? How could Open Group own name? :confused:

MacAddikt · MacAddikt #3 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 11:35 AM

on the Open Group site they state:

"Regarding SCO's positioning on UNIX, The Open Group would like to make it clear that SCO holds the rights only to the operating system source code originally licensed by AT&T and does not own the UNIX trademark itself or definition of what a UNIX system is.
Reference to the SCO web site show that they own certain intellectual property and they correctly attribute the trademark. SCO has never owned "UNIX"."

so i dont know what their argument is. they even say they dont own the trademark and apple did use it

Emrys · Emrys #4 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 11:56 AM

Apple doesn't use the word UNIX, do they?

I though Darwin was a BSD....

rman · rman #5 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 11:59 AM

Sounds like a frivolous lawsuit to me. I wish there were laws againt frivolous lawsuits. It would help save us tax payers, major money.

MacAddikt · MacAddikt #6 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 12:25 PM

http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/unix.html

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html

http://developer.apple.com/darwin/

no where did i see them claim UNIX as part of their OS, but rather UNIX-based or open source UNIX. or the power of UNIX, but not actually UNIX.

rman · rman #7 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 12:28 PM

True that.

gatorparrots · gatorparrots #8 (**permalink**)

06-12-2003, 12:30 PM

Graphite · Graphite #9 (**permalink**)

06-13-2003, 10:54 PM

yeah rman.

schweb #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 27, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 13,213 Mac Specs: MacBook Pro \| LED Cinema Display \| iPhone 4 \| iPad 2	06-11-2003, 09:15 PM Source: News.com As legal battles heat up over who owns the rights to the Unix operating system, another dispute has been quietly simmering over the rights to the Unix name itself. Apple Computer is being sued by The Open Group, the San Francisco company that claims ownership of the Unix trademark, for using the term Unix in conjunction with its Mac OS X operating system without a license. Apple has countersued, asking a judge to declare that the trademark is invalid, because the term Unix has become generic. schweb \| community leader flickr » facebook » twitter » tumblr » google+ » about.me Mac-Forums: On Twitter \| On Facebook \| On Flickr
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Member Since: Oct 27, 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,345 Mac Specs: 17" iMac G4 800MHz 1GB RAM	06-12-2003, 11:56 AM Apple doesn't use the word UNIX, do they? I though Darwin was a BSD.... Emrys Community Administrator / Moderator MAC-FORUMS.COM - The Ultimate Source For Your Mac!
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Member Since: Dec 30, 2002 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 2,118 Mac Specs: G5•2x1.8•1.5•320•8x+/-	06-12-2003, 12:25 PM http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/unix.html http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ no where did i see them claim UNIX as part of their OS, but rather UNIX-based or open source UNIX. or the power of UNIX, but not actually UNIX.
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