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Circumvent DRM? No. Purchase non-DRM titles in Safari on the iPad and open them in your e-reader of choice? Absolutely. Circumventing DRM is an entirely different discussion that you can't do on ANY tablet at this point, so that's not really relevant to this discussion. And RavingMac beat me to it... Baen Ebooks sells DRM-free titles which you can simply purchase in Safari on the iPad and then open up in your e-reader. The whole point of DRM is to stop that from happening, so good luck seeing a big manufacturer having a way to do that baked right in to their OS.


I do love David Weber's work. I'm just a few books from finishing the entire Honor Harrington universe, and I'm patiently waiting for the next Safehold book (due out in January I believe).
It is totally relevant to this discussion, as there is no ebook "sold" by Apple that does not have DRM. While you may have decided to only buy books that are DRM free,not all of us have. And making the statement that "any book can be opened in Safari" is just wrong. If you have found a legal internet site (one that pays the publishers, not a russian or ukrainian site that pays nothing to the publishers/authors) that sells all the books the major suppliers carry without DRM, I'd like to know.

We can agree on one thing though, David Webers books.
Finished the Harrington series about a year ago.
Like John Ringo's books better after working with Weber.
Check out The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell - sadly, unavailable on Baen.

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Baen Ebooks

Baen Books (SF Publishing House) sells all their eBooks DRM free, and they allow you to redownload if you need to change reader format.
I have no connection with them, but they are my first choice for buying eBooks. They also have an extensive free library worth looking at.

Thanks for that link mate. Love looking through and have got a couple of Webers books, and love that i can download them and put them in either Kindle or iBooks App. I chose Kindle and leave iBooks for all my iTunes purchase . . . .
Lot of authors i have never heard of including Weber but im trusting you blokes on that one

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Circumvent DRM? No. Purchase non-DRM titles in Safari on the iPad and open them in your e-reader of choice? Absolutely.
Hold the phone here! Earlier you said, and I quote:
"Ok, I'll correct you. You're wrong. You can open any book in Safari and transfer it to iBooks, Marvin, Kindle, or whatever eBook reader you want to use."

So by "any book", you meant "any book that doesn't have DRM"? That's horribly misleading and I wasn't wrong. Not entirely anyway. I did a short test with a PDF file and while Mercury didn't have the option to kick it to one of the PDF readers I had, Safari did. But that was a DRM-free file that Safari had to access/open first. My takeaway here is that if Safari can't read it (i.e. the file has DRM), then Safari can't kick it to another app, AND it can only do so once it has fully downloaded it first.

In other news, I ordered the Kobo Aura HD and it shipped today. Definitely looking forward to it and perusing Baen Books' catalogue.


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John Scalzi's stuff is pretty good, too: Old Man's War, The Ghost Brigade. On the Baen front, Baen and Amazon have some sort of business deal now where Baen books are available on Amazon. I generally buy from Baen directly, have them email to my Kindle account and read on my iPad with the Kindle app. Sometimes the conversion to .mobi fails, so when that happens I download .epub and either put the book under iBooks or use Calibre to convert to .mobi and use the OSX application Send to Kindle to get it to my iPad.
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It is totally relevant to this discussion, as there is no ebook "sold" by Apple that does not have DRM. While you may have decided to only buy books that are DRM free,not all of us have. And making the statement that "any book can be opened in Safari" is just wrong. If you have found a legal internet site (one that pays the publishers, not a russian or ukrainian site that pays nothing to the publishers/authors) that sells all the books the major suppliers carry without DRM, I'd like to know.
I think I'm confused about what the original question even was. I thought the original question was concerning the ability to open an ebook in safari and transfer to another app for reading. Isn't that feasible, or am I wrong?

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We can agree on one thing though, David Webers books.
Finished the Harrington series about a year ago.
Like John Ringo's books better after working with Weber.
Check out The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell - sadly, unavailable on Baen.
I will definitely give The Lost Fleet a look. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Another one where a female character takes the lead in a space adventure is the Kris Longknife series by Mike Shepherd. I'm awaiting #11 later this year.

Any sci-fi nut that hasn't read The Saga of Seven Suns by Kevin J Anderson needs to check out that series.

And yeah, we're waaaaayyyy off topic now, but that's ok.
Especially if we all get some new reading material out of it.

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liab - give us run down of that Aura HD after you've had some time with it.
Will do. It's my first ereader, so my perspective will be rather limited. I'll point you to a review that compared it to the Kindle Paperwhite. I had read a number of reviews and comparisons, but this one cinched it for me. These guys did a really great, in-depth review and comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPFfw2sNQ_c

One thing that almost put me off of it was the unusual way Kobo formats their ebooks. They put a full blank line in between every paragraph, rather than just indenting the first line. The net effect is you don't actually get much more text on screen. But I found instructions on how to reformat their ebooks to get around that (requires stripping Kobo's DRM) so I decided to let that slide.


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