No Windows on Intel Macs, yet....

baggss · baggss #1 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 06:55 PM

Original Story HERE.

EDIT-XTREEM · EDIT-XTREEM #2 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 08:44 PM

Mabe Vista will be able to...

technologist · technologist #3 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 09:43 PM

FWIW, I'm glad that Apple isn't using a traditional PC BIOS. EFI (Like Open Firmware before it) is so much more flexible. Mac OS has no need of the legacy baggage that a BIOS carries.

And yes, Windows will eventually come to support EFI natively in 32-bit flavors. It wouldn't terribly surprise me if this happened in an updated edition of WinXP.

macAttack · macAttack #4 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 09:44 PM

you could with a hack run windows XP...but i'm sure it will be lengthy to do

Meyvn · Meyvn #5 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 10:02 PM

Halleluia for no BIOS. I think I would have cried if Macs had them.

Avid6eek · Avid6eek #6 (**permalink**)

01-11-2006, 11:01 PM

Apple couldn't allow their users to see a BIOS...there is no way they could make it pretty enough, and the user friendly Mac Addicts would be totally lost if they were pulled from their bubble.

Personally I can't wait for the option to dual boot Windows Vista / OS X on a single system.

Ex_PC_Puke · Ex_PC_Puke #7 (**permalink**)

01-12-2006, 12:36 AM

I was initially disappointed to here the new Intel Macs would have the capability to run a Microsoft OS ........... after some reflection I am ok with this. If Apple wants to expand its sales and user base it needs to do this - this will ultimatly expose more people to Apple's superior product design - innovation - integration ------ But Apple will need to work doubly hard on keeping and making OS X blow the doors off of anything MS deploys.

Keep in mind there will be a software convergence of sorts in the next few years as it becomes very easy for SW makers to offer both PC and Mac versions of popular applications at the same price - thus allowing people and more importantly businesses migrate to OS X

The linch-pin here is that Apple needs to make OS X as bullet proof as possible (and their core SW apps) because I believe secure systems (self healing) and systems that help protect users from threats (making stupid choices)will prevail on the Wicked-Wide-Web

johninc · johninc #8 (**permalink**)

01-12-2006, 12:58 AM

They'll definately hack it. All it will need is a version of xp tweaked to get by that ETI

technologist · technologist #9 (**permalink**)

01-12-2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Avid6eek

Apple couldn't allow their users to see a BIOS...there is no way they could make it pretty enough, and the user friendly Mac Addicts would be totally lost if they were pulled from their bubble.

Personally I can't wait for the option to dual boot Windows Vista / OS X on a single system.

You haven't seen Open Firmware, have you? :mac: It does everything a BIOS does, but it includes its own programming language and command line, so that you can add functionality at runtime. (So does EFI, more or less.) A BIOS looks like a toy comparison.

Icicle · Icicle #10 (**permalink**)

01-13-2006, 02:41 AM

So no dual booting until we either have 64 bit, or until Windows supports EFI in 32 bit....

Wonder which one will come first?

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EDIT-XTREEM #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Jun 27, 2005 Location: In the mac store and at home on my iMac Posts: 1,165	01-11-2006, 08:44 PM Mabe Vista will be able to... Mac Pro (Early 2009) 8 Core 2.26 GHz, 6 GB Ram, 640 GB Drive. Dell 2408WFP.
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Member Since: Apr 23, 2005 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 1,509 Mac Specs: iBook	01-11-2006, 09:44 PM you could with a hack run windows XP...but i'm sure it will be lengthy to do SpeedTest
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Meyvn #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 24, 2004 Posts: 726 Mac Specs: Black Colorware PowerBook 1.67 GHz G4, 2 GB DDR2, 100GB 7200 RPM	01-11-2006, 10:02 PM Halleluia for no BIOS. I think I would have cried if Macs had them. 'cause when it rains, you know it pours.
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Avid6eek #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 13, 2005 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 350	01-11-2006, 11:01 PM Apple couldn't allow their users to see a BIOS...there is no way they could make it pretty enough, and the user friendly Mac Addicts would be totally lost if they were pulled from their bubble. Personally I can't wait for the option to dual boot Windows Vista / OS X on a single system. Desktop Specs: Core 2 Quad Q6600@ 4.0Ghz \| Asus P5E X38 Motherboard \| 4GB PC8000 DDRII \| EVGA GeForce 8800GTX \| CL x-Fi Fatal1ty \| 4 x Hitachi 73GB 15,000rpm SAS HDs (RAID 0) \| Adaptec 3805 SAS Controller \| Dual Sony 16X DVD-RW’s \| Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers
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Ex_PC_Puke #7 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	01-12-2006, 12:36 AM I was initially disappointed to here the new Intel Macs would have the capability to run a Microsoft OS ........... after some reflection I am ok with this. If Apple wants to expand its sales and user base it needs to do this - this will ultimatly expose more people to Apple's superior product design - innovation - integration ------ But Apple will need to work doubly hard on keeping and making OS X blow the doors off of anything MS deploys. Keep in mind there will be a software convergence of sorts in the next few years as it becomes very easy for SW makers to offer both PC and Mac versions of popular applications at the same price - thus allowing people and more importantly businesses migrate to OS X The linch-pin here is that Apple needs to make OS X as bullet proof as possible (and their core SW apps) because I believe secure systems (self healing) and systems that help protect users from threats (making stupid choices)will prevail on the Wicked-Wide-Web
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johninc #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 28, 2004 Location: Albany, CA Posts: 643 Mac Specs: ibook G4 12 inch running mac os 10.4 with: 60 gb HD+256 mb ram+Radeon 9200	01-12-2006, 12:58 AM They'll definately hack it. All it will need is a version of xp tweaked to get by that ETI
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Icicle #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 11, 2004 Location: Spokane Wa Posts: 178 Mac Specs: MacPro 2 x 3Ghz Dual Core Nvidia 8800, 7 gigs ram Macbook pro 2011 Intel i7 triple boots Ubuntu/Win7	01-13-2006, 02:41 AM So no dual booting until we either have 64 bit, or until Windows supports EFI in 32 bit.... Wonder which one will come first? Kevin, Spokane Washington USA
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